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Old 09-04-2013, 11:16 PM   #16
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ya, evidence of fossilized remains would be the jackpot. Unfortunately I'm not sure they'd ever find mineralized evidence of such primitive life in Earth rock, never mind on Mars or in a Martian meteorite. Even soft bodied multicellular life doesn't readily fossilize.
Can you imagine the shitstorm it would create if they not only find that there was once life on Mars, but that it was also in some way "organized" - its own version of "civilization"...? I know there's no proof - but that would be really cool...

On a side note - I think we will see a colony on Mars within the next 50 years...
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:23 PM   #17
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Well that's my point. Unless the paper outlines something like... certain chemical levels on Martian meteorites that are otherwise absent on early Earth which are responsible for the formation of life, the facts seem to be entirely parallel and aren't crossing over. We know Martian meteorites exist and we know Mars once could've been a breeding ground for life but we don't know that the two ever game together. It's fair to investigate it, but it's not okay to claim it unless evidence on a collected sample says so.
But that's sort of what they've done. There has been a road block in hypothesizing how RNA was able to form on Earth, but when the ancient Martian meteorites were examined, they contained qualities that would overcome the issues on Earth. Again, I don't think anyone is suggesting it's definitive proof... or even strong proof... just that the conditions would have been such to make it plausible.

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If it's igneous material, it's an achondrite. A Nakhlite is probably a group of achondrites native to Mars
Yep, as far as I know, they are specific to Mars. I'm far from an expert though. I like to collect all kinds of interesting doodads
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Can you imagine the shitstorm it would create if they not only find that there was once life on Mars, but that it was also in some way "organized" - its own version of "civilization"...? I know there's no proof - but that would be really cool...
It would be a collective consciousness mind fuck
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How man "religions" would begin overnight? Ten...a hundred???
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Can you imagine the shitstorm it would create if they not only find that there was once life on Mars, but that it was also in some way "organized" - its own version of "civilization"...? I know there's no proof - but that would be really cool...

On a side note - I think we will see a colony on Mars within the next 50 years...
Pompeii was... shall we say... dug up. Who knows what lies under the surface of Mars
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Yep, as far as I know, they are specific to Mars. I'm far from an expert though. I like to collect all kinds of interesting doodads
A family of meteorites is native to their parent body. As I mentioned before with the HED clan, all three are different types of meteorites broken from their parent asteroid (Vesta). Different breaks belong to different families. All Nakhlites will be from Mars, just as all Howardites are from Vesta. So say it with more conviction! I did some reading on it, interesting thing to collect. I've actually got two papers to read between now and 3 PM on parent bodies and the origin of meteors from the origin of the solar system. Learning all about how meteorites actually find their way to Earth and stuff.
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It would be really, really cool.
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