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Old 05-03-2012, 02:41 PM   #31
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"The Daily Show" had a bit the other night with conservative commentators coming out and criticizing Obama for "politicizing" Osama's death, and not giving credit where credit was supposedly due to the Bush adminstration.

I pretty much sat there slack-jawed during the clips they kept showing. REALLY, Republicans? You're bitching about someone politicizing something? Really? And what the hell are we supposed to give the Bush administration credit for? Taking our eye off Osama to focus on Iraq for most of the decade and blow money and resources in an area we didn't need to go into and which didn't have a single tie to 9/11? NOT finding Osama for 10 damned years, so Obama could have the chance to do it himself?

Dumbasses and sore losers, the lot of them.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #32
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our country was never meant to be a two party system. and that's the problem.

if you're a republican who happens to agree with some things that are typically more liberal, you're shamed and said that you might as well be a democrat, and vice versa.

it's stagnated progress in our nation, and both parties make me sick to my stomach.

there's a ton of shit that republicans are dead wrong on but refuse to give up on because of some bullshit moral high ground. and there's a ton of shit that democrats are fucked on too. you can't just use deductive fuck reasoning and decide "hey, i think that's a good idea" if your so aligned with one side or another that you refuse to stray from party lines.

fuck 'em both.
The bigger problem with this country's party system is the fact that both liberals and conservatives would be considered right wing in many other countries. We don't actually have a (large enough) extremist left wing to balance out the extremist right wing so we end up with a very conservative nation, wondering why.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:38 PM   #33
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It doesn't make any difference what we believe. We should be able to believe whatever the fuck we want, that's the whole idea of democracy.

The problem is, there are only two (morally corrupt) choices on the menu and there is no real way to remedy that. If people had real choices, the people could fix the government themselves and fashion it any way we want. That's supposed to be how it works.

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference that Obama is considered a "liberal" in America and center-Right anywhere else, except perhaps only to Leftists themselves. And if there is one thing we categorically don't need, is more extremists on either side.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:16 PM   #34
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It doesn't make any difference what we believe. We should be able to believe whatever the fuck we want, that's the whole idea of democracy.

The problem is, there are only two (morally corrupt) choices on the menu and there is no real way to remedy that. If people had real choices, the people could fix the government themselves and fashion it any way we want. That's supposed to be how it works.

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference that Obama is considered a "liberal" in America and center-Right anywhere else, except perhaps only to Leftists themselves. And if there is one thing we categorically don't need, is more extremists on either side.
I don't care which political spectrum Obama is from. The issue is that we have the illusion of choice (which you acknowledged). Republicans and Democrats are actually not all that different. We've come to a point where no matter who you vote for the same things are going to happen. It's become a popularity contest to see which president is the most "likeable". People live under the illusion that replacing a democratic president with a republican one, or vice versa, is actually going to change something.

Technically, the house of representatives was never meant to last forever. It was a temporary solution to deal with the fact that colonies were so far away from each other and it would take forever to send things by mail. It's outdated, unneeded, and not even representing us anymore.
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