John Allen Muhammad execution set for Nov. 10, should there be a Stay?
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Angela Harlem
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Why is he particularly relevant? Does the magnitude of crime affect whether the death penalty should be applied?
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Most in the USA would answer yes to your question.
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For those who believe in the death penalty, I'd say Diamond is correct that most US residents would associate punishment with the severity of the charges.
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Jive Turkey
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Ya, I dont believe in the death penalty, but if you do, this one pretty much sums up what its to be used for
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well i'm glad he'll be dead tomorrow. now he can't hurt anyone else.
HyperU2
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Only if it means he'll Stay dead.
Irvine511
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10 dead?
what if it were only 7? or 3?
please, let us know what the threshold of horror is that makes a crime punishable by death.
HyperU2
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1 death.
BVS
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I somehow doubt you are this black and white...
What if the murder was "justifiable" in your mind?
HyperU2
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Obviously I don't want the death penalty for justifiable homicide, manslaughter or accidents.
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No, I'm talking about pre-meditated murder, but someone you thought deserved it.
A man who kills his daughter's rapist.
A man who kills his daughter's rapist.
HyperU2
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Acquitted.
BVS
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See, you aren't as black and white as you try to come off...
Murder is murder.
Murder is murder.
HyperU2
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Yeah, just kill those that make it to death row. That's kind of black and white.
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But you said 1 death, so I was assuming every murder you want executed.
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so is there anyone here that believes in the death penalty and thinks this guy doesnt deserve it? Or is this a now a pro/anti death sentence conversation?
HyperU2
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I was assuming you realized I meant based on their conviction. I don't want any murders executed though, or otherwise carried out.
i don't believe in the death penalty. so i suppose it's best that i stay out of this.
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Irvine511
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i see nothing to be gained by the death penalty. there is no use for it.
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A pre-meditated murder is murder, that man who shot his daughter's rapist is not always going to get acquitted. I was assuming you realized that.
HyperU2
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Fine, give him probation, it's still not likely to be a capital case.
Angela Harlem
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How can it be anything but a death penalty discussion? You either support it or you don't. You either support every single individual's right to life, or you don't. Gaol is full of people who don't support every individual's right to life. Here is one more who doesn't adamantly support a fellow person's right to their life. And before any smartarse on here assumes this is implying there is a similarity or connection between supporters of the death penalty and those who commit murder, save your breath. You simply share a belief that sometimes it's OK for people to die from human choices. It's just applied in different circumstances. It's a view I find abhorrent. What is life if you do not endeavour to everything always to protect it? That's a rhetorical, by the way. I've got no sympathy for criminals. Their life and right to it will never be my choice to meddle in. It's a choice I severely doubt mankind's ability to make, generally.
Anyway, this is way off topic. I don't see how you can discuss the sentence of one man without it being about all men and women on death row.
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Well there was this comment:
It sort of implies that in this case perhaps the death sentence isnt appropriate. The first few posts in the thread implied that there might be others who shared this view. I was intrigued as to what their reasoning may be, but the conversation quickly turned to another direction. As a matter of fact, the thread title includes the question "should there be a stay?", further implying there could be reasons that this man in particular should not be executed . In that sense, I do see how we can discuss the sentence of one man without it being about all men and women on death row. I also think it would make for a more interesting conversation than the typical anti/pro death sentence arguments/soap box, masturbatory drivel that cant possibly go anywhere
The only thing I find unique about this execution, and the final appeal to the US Supreme Court, is the fact that each member of the Court has a level of personal experience in the case. That is, in most cases the members of the Court are hearing cases in a detached almost abstract manner. Not here. Since they all live, work, and have family in the metro DC area, each of them surely experienced the personal terror of simply being outside, in a public space, while this savage was on the loose killing people at random for weeks. I'm not surprised to hear that they were not sympathetic to his appeal.
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Fuck him.
Ask the victim's relatives how they feel about him.
Ask the victim's relatives how they feel about him.
Irvine511
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with all due respect, justice isn't about making the families of victims feel better, or about allowing them to exact whatever revenge they see fit.
