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Old 11-18-2008, 08:34 AM   #16
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This thread was a waste of my time...
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:40 AM   #17
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Shouldn't God rule over the church?
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Makes better sense to me.
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Yeah, Joseph Smith wasn't one for equality now was he?
If this is true why were Mormon women allowed to vote in 1840, while the rest of US population forbade them until a century later?

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Old 11-18-2008, 08:48 AM   #18
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This isn't Corinth. Maybe the women in Corinth were just really loud and annoying during services.


That said. Where would men be without women? Nowhere. Everyone has a mother, even Jesus. None of you would be here without us. Women could so take over the world if we just united and said "No more sex/babies for any of you until we get what we want!"


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the espitle to the corinthian saints were letter exchanges between the apostle paul and timothy.

paul was speaking about a localized problem w a certain members in a certain congregation(s).


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all true.

the espitle to the corinthian saints were letter exchanges between the apostle paul and timothy.

paul was speaking about a localized problem w a certain members in a certain congregation(s).


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Exactly why it really has no relevence as far as women in leadership roles, in general.
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If this is true why were Mormon women allowed to vote in 1840, while the rest of US population forbade them until a century later?

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Women's suffrage in Utah was two fold, it was a PR move to show the rest of the country Mormon women weren't slave or prostitutes, and two it was done to maintain polygamy since more and more antipolygamy groups were moving into Utah.
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the espitle to the corinthian saints were letter exchanges between the apostle paul and timothy.

paul was speaking about a localized problem w a certain members in a certain congregation(s).


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So you quoted it in regards to a modern controversy occurring in America because....?
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:47 PM   #23
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Women's suffrage in Utah was two fold, it was a PR move to show the rest of the country Mormon women weren't slave or prostitutes, and two it was done to maintain polygamy since more and more antipolygamy groups were moving into Utah.
LDS women were able to have a voice and govern long before they came to Utah-try again.

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Mormon treatment of women is nothing short of pioneering. Do you still require the women, and men for that matter, to wear garments? How do women overcome breastfeeding issues, not to mention what on earth do they do during their period? Just curious.
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It's up to a member to choose to wear the sacred garment. However the rules and requirements upon wearing them are not as stringent as some people conjure up in their minds.

As many children as LDS families average, it's not that much of an impediment as some ppl may have thought.



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Then where were they in 1840? Please tell me...
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It's up to a member to choose to wear the sacred garment. However the rules and requirements upon wearing them are not as stringent as some people conjure up in their minds.

As many children as LDS families average, it's not that much of an impediment as some ppl may have thought.



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Do you wear yours? My sister and her husband wear theirs. I was told that once you'd been baptized at the Temple, that you had to wear them.


To Anna: Menstruation wouldn't be a problem. The women's garments are essentially longish shorts (like bike shorts) and a tanktop with cap sleeves. Nursing would be a big issue though. Unless they make a special 'nursing bra' version of the women's garments. I wouldn't know.
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Then where were they in 1840? Please tell me...
They were voting their consent and sustaining of or non consent and non sustaining of both female and male leaders in the Church since it's inception in 1830.

They were also running their own philanthropic group called the Relief Society.




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The Relief Society is a philanthropic and educational women's organization and an official auxiliary organization of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Founded in 1842 in Nauvoo, Illinois, USA, the Relief Society today claims more than 5.2 million members in over 170 countries and territories, and is one of the oldest and largest women's organizations in the world.[2]
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Do you wear yours? My sister and her husband wear theirs.


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Yes I wear mine.

Once you covenant to live a higher law beyond baptism although baptism is needed this goes even beyond that- you can choose to wear them.

And they're pretty comfortable actually.

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Yes I wear mine.
Okay. I kinda thought maybe you didn't. I mean, based on pictures, you usually can't tell whether a guy is wearing them or not. But I'd seen pics of your wife, and she was clearly not wearing any, so I thought maybe you didn't either. Or is she not a Mormon too?
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