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Old 01-20-2012, 01:53 PM   #1
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Jesus Hates Religion

Hard to believe a thread hasn't sprung up around this yet.

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He seems pretty religious to me.
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I'm not comfortable with this rapper's "otherness"
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:03 PM   #4
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I have a theory that in 100 years or so, someone is going to look back at David Koresh and the Branch Davidians and decide that he was legit. He claimed to be the Son of God. Foresaw his own death. Was untrusted and brutalized by the government of the day and was ultimately martyred by them. His church was low key and not noteworthy during its time. They'll write books about his life and his teachings. They'll add supernatural flourishes. In time it'll become one of the largest religions in the world.
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In defense of the future Davidians, the FBI did kill 76 people by lighting Mount Carmel on fire and then told everyone the Davidians did it to themselves.
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I have a theory that in 100 years or so, someone is going to look back at David Koresh and the Branch Davidians and decide that he was legit. He claimed to be the Son of God. Foresaw his own death. Was untrusted and brutalized by the government of the day and was ultimately martyred by them. His church was low key and not noteworthy during its time. They'll write books about his life and his teachings. They'll add supernatural flourishes. In time it'll become one of the largest religions in the world.
not fair to compare Koresh to Jesus

true person ≠ construct
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I have a theory that in 100 years or so, someone is going to look back at David Koresh and the Branch Davidians and decide that he was legit. He claimed to be the Son of God. Foresaw his own death. Was untrusted and brutalized by the government of the day and was ultimately martyred by them. His church was low key and not noteworthy during its time. They'll write books about his life and his teachings. They'll add supernatural flourishes. In time it'll become one of the largest religions in the world.
David who?
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Jesus who?
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His poem would be an interesting conversation to have within the Church, but outside of it, it rings a little hollow.
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Hard to believe a thread hasn't sprung up around this yet.
What to you is most discussion-worthy about it? My guess is in all likelihood most people in here hadn't heard of it; it's clearly coming from, and primarily aimed at, those of practicing Christian and especially evangelical Protestant backgrounds--after all most of it's devoted to laying out one person's baggage from and grievances with that specific environment, which isn't necessarily going to resonate with everybody. Having said that, it did come across to me like a familiar enough version of discontents common to many religiously inclined young people (not unique to Christians, nor to our times, though I think the increasingly individualistic nature of our culture probably does heighten it).

This blogger, a pastor, had a subsequent online exchange with him about it: Does Jesus Hate Religion? Kinda, Sorta, Not Really – Kevin DeYoung
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"I don't hate Jesus, I just hate the people who invented him."
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Hard to believe a thread hasn't sprung up around this yet.
I thought about posting this, but knew it would only start another endless debate over the existence of God, the need for religion, and so forth. Y'know, the type of threads that go no where.
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"I don't hate Jesus, I just hate the people who invented him."
That's kinda what I get out of it too. The Jesus he 'knows' (Not in the biblical sense. Waka waka) is a creation of the religion he claims to hate. I refuse to believe there are any anti religious (at least, anti christian church) sentiments in the bible attributed to Jesus
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I refuse to believe there are any anti religious (at least, anti christian church) sentiments in the bible attributed to Jesus
There was no Christian Church in the Bible.
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