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Check in here if you think America and the world deserves better than a choice between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
Well this is what too many Americans already do and are shooting themselves in the foot b/c they don't seem to realize that the people that have the MOST effect on their daily lives are LOCAL politicians. My mother in law told me she will probably stay home and not vote b/c she doesn't know who to vote for an Obama already has Ill anyway. I don't understand why it seems a majority if this country is totally apathetic towards participating in the political process that effects the schools their children attend, the libraries and parks they use, the roads they drive on, the taxes they pay, whether the county can seize their home in favor of a a new shopping mall.....who cares about the effing president just VOTE!If I was an American citizen I would stay at home
It has always amazed me, the number of people who follow every last arcane twist and turn of the presidential elections, and yet they don't even know the names of the mayoral candidates, don't have a clue what the differences between the gubernatorial candidates are, and vote for school board members using reasoning like, "oh, one of the Miller family, I went to school with a couple of them and they seemed pretty cool" etc. etc.Well this is what too many Americans already do and are shooting themselves in the foot b/c they don't seem to realize that the people that have the MOST effect on their daily lives are LOCAL politicians.
I agree with the sentiments, I wouldn't vote for McCain on the basis of his contempt for free speech, and Obama for similar reasons (as well as his inspiring religious levels of support from some quarters). I only marginally want to see Obama loose because I enjoy watching the democrats whine (and it's good to have a separate legislature and executive). If I was an American citizen I would stay at home, I am not altogether disposed towards corrupt plutocrats.
I lean right, not conservative.You wouldn't vote for Obama because he has a lot of support? That's absurd.
You lean conservative. I still remember you here in 2004 celebrating after W got re-elected.
Obama is 100x the candidate McCain is.
That you 'marginally want to see Obama loose because I enjoy watching the democrats whine' is childish and ridiculous.
i plan on casting a vote for mickey mouse.
It has always amazed me, the number of people who follow every last arcane twist and turn of the presidential elections, and yet they don't even know the names of the mayoral candidates, don't have a clue what the differences between the gubernatorial candidates are, and vote for school board members using reasoning like, "oh, one of the Miller family, I went to school with a couple of them and they seemed pretty cool" etc. etc.
Obama is 100x the candidate McCain is.
I would support a moderate 3rd (non-corporate) party in a heartbeat.
And even if it leaned right or left, as long as it were sane enough.
It's the problem with the whole mess.
It's why change is a pipe dream.
While realists acknowledge this and try to pick the lesser of two evils between the Turd Sandwich and the Giant Douche, there are still some good people in politics out there. It's what the interests that stand behind them, require them to do (support) that prevents any real reform.
I think Obama actually intends to change things but I think he'll get his baptism by fire if and when he gets elected. McCain knows he can't change things, so he regurgitates the same old school bullshit. He's not a bad guy. He's just a realist. Turds vs Douches, Bad Ideas vs No Ideas.
So, politics aside, I think our system manufactures the douches and turds.
Good people corrupted by the inevitable corruption that comes from the thirst to retain power.
How does it stop?
Maybe Obama should have run as an Independent if he really wanted true change.
I would have been his biggest cheerleader. Maybe some of you as well, even if he is too far left for your tastes. Anything to break out of the doldrums of the corporate funded special interest pork infested bullshit festival leviathan that we have.
Instead our 3rd alternatives are something like Jesse "9/11 was our own doing" Ventura, Ron "no government at all" Paul, Ralph "socialism" Nader and on down the line.
Sane 3rd party (choice), please!
I'll bite.
As I see it our choice is between a good and heroic old man whose time has past and who will perpetuate failed policy, a jaded woman of the establishment, who will do anything to perpetuate her family's dynastic "claim" to power, and a brilliant, openhearted new founding father the likes of which America has not seen.
Obama comes to us from outside the system that has produced our present multiple crises of wars of choice and a failing economy. He does what all truly great leaders do: he speaks to the soul in plain self-revealing words of hope.
Obama is worth fighting for. He is worth losing old friends for. History has thrown America an unlikely lifeline. Do we have the decency, the sense, the last glimmer of sanity needed to open our hearts to change?
Okay, I would go to the polls but I would forfeit my vote.
I genuinely feel that my views are not represented, on the single issues that I do care about the candidatesare generally indistinguishable and the simple fact is that one vote doesn't count in most places. I have a some sympathy towards the individual that votes (or not votes) out of principle, it's an important right that gets them beaten from both partisan side.
Presidents make a difference?
I can't jump on this train. I'm just not cynical enough, I guess.
As I said, there are good people in politics, I believe Obama wants to make real changes but unless it can be shown to me how he does it without becoming a turd or douche like all the rest, then I'll continue in my "cynical" way.
Yes, the Democrats would not let themselves be the party that lost Iraq.Do you think the US would be in Iraq right now if Kerry had won ?
Yes, the Democrats would not let themselves be the party that lost Iraq.