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All we would have to do is convert and immigrate. We could even get good housing in a settlement on land stolen from Palestinians that have been there for hundreds of years. They are removed from their homes and put behind barricades while non-middle eastern people are invited in by Israel to take over their property. |
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Stolen land? I don't know of any other people in history who have a more legitimate claim to a strip of land than the Jews. Also, there has never been a state called Palestine. |
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So what? Nor, prior to the nineteenth century were there states called "Greece" (well, technically there still isn't but we won't get into that) or "Italy". Yet I'm sure we can agree that there were Greeks and Italians.
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God forbid this was the basis of international law. |
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There is no BIBLE that says it's theirs.
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If you want to talk about legitimate claims to land, let me introduce you to a certain group of people called Aboriginals, who've been living on the Australian continent for 40,000 years.
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And if you want to talk about history, Iron Horse, it's worth bearing in mind that the modern Israel is above all a European project; inspired and founded by European Jews from Europe.
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Israel is a European colony.
I claim to be against colonialism, but I also think that liberal, democratic, first world, free-enterprise-employing societies and government are good things, and I don't think that Palestine sans Israel would be that. So I'm torn. Perhaps colonialism is generally a bad way to create such societies. (Although many people of Hong Kong might disagree.) |
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What Palestine? What are you proposing here, indefinite occupation whereby Israel shows "Palestine" the right way to exist? |
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I really doubt that "liberal" and "democratic" are terms you can describe Israel with.
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I'm commenting on Israel's right to exist (or not). On one hand, I don't like that there's a European colony in the middle of Palestine. On the other hand, I think that the existence of states like Israel in general ought to be celebrated. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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I think it's very interesting that Israel is the only nation in the world that has a "right" to exist. That term is simply not bandied about anywhere else.
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