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Old 05-07-2011, 04:01 PM   #166
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And by the way, I haven't been following this thread, but when I say "lust", I'm using it in a way to mean when I see women I think 'Oh, she's hot', or 'she's pretty', or 'she looks sweet', or 'I like her because of...'
Wow, if that's lust, it's not wrong at all. I call that appreciation and attraction.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:03 PM   #167
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Wow, if that's lust, it's not wrong at all. I call that appreciation and attraction.
Then I appreciate on an almost daily basis.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:17 PM   #168
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I think that the situation is a little different with teenagers. While it is still ultimately the male's responsibility to control himself, the teenage male years are so confusing and hormone driven, it's a lot more difficult for them to control their thoughts. I'm not putting blame on the teenage girls, but I think some of them could really help the matter by dressing more appropriately. But then again, most of these girls are just victim of society's pressure to conform to that "perfect, sexy" image. I think there likely are some teenage girls who purposely try to titilate and tease, but I think most are just trying to fit in and be "in style".

I can see your point. The teenage years are difficult overall. As the mother of an 11 year old daughter, I do have a say in how she dresses, but I am absolutely amazed with what other girls her age are wearing. It is nothing like it was when I was that age. It is downright scary sometimes. The struggle to fit in starts really young. My issue is more with the woman almost being blamed if something happens and she is dressed in a revealing manner. That isn't fair.
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Then I appreciate on an almost daily basis.
Almost daily? Are you in jail or something? I'd say almost hourly.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:36 PM   #170
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Are you in jail or something?
I live with my girlfriend.

Wait...that's not what you asked, right?

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Old 05-07-2011, 09:56 PM   #171
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Not that it's any of your business, but no, that particular thing is not one of the sins I have committed.
Dude, this is not a confessional box.

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I'm noting I haven't committed sexual sin.
Sexual 'sin'?

Sex is natural, fun and by and large, healthy. It's simple biology. Ok, there might be the odd time when it's not as much fun as other times. But, even at that, where's the 'sin' part? Sin is fun too, at times. IMO, even bad sex is better than no sex at all.

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As I have plainly written in this thread, I have.
I'm certainly not proud of any of them.
You have only one life, dude.
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Out of curiosity, does anyone here believe that if a woman dresses a certain way, it is her fault that a man lusts for her? Or should the man take full responsibility for his actions rather than blame her?
I think it depends on the circumstances. Women that dress like prick-teasers and/or sluts will attract a lot of males to them, like bees to a honey-pot, but, are often not that great in the sack, in my experience.
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:22 PM   #173
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Dude, this is not a confessional box.
You asked, and I answered truthfully. But I don't know why I answered such a rude and intrusive question.

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You have only one life, dude.
I do have only one life, and I am happy and content person, lacking in my life nothing of value.
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Out of curiosity, does anyone here believe that if a woman dresses a certain way, it is her fault that a man lusts for her? Or should the man take full responsibility for his actions rather than blame her?
I don't see any "fault" on either side.

I'm very wary of men getting involved in any kind of discussion as to what women or girls "should" wear. It stinks of sexism to me.

That said, I don't think most women really understand how most men function. I'm not sure how to explain it (I've literally started and erased several sentences trying to explain and can't seem to get it right). The way a man and a woman responds emotionally and physically to an attractive member of the opposite sex (or the same sex if gay) showing a lot of skin is very different. Not right or wrong, just different. I often find that women assume that we respond just as they do, and we don't. Or I don't anyway. Women should know that what they wear does have an impact on the men around them. Men are not "wrong" for their responses, nor are women "wrong" for what they wear. Nevertheless, as has already been discussed, what a man thinks or feels in their own thoughts is not a problem. Whether he acts inappropriately on those thoughts is, and for that he is fully reponsible. What she was wearing has no bearing on the matter.
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I do have only one life, and I am happy and content person, lacking in my life nothing of value.
Apart from shagging?
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Apart from shagging?
Au contraire. One of the causes of my happiness is that I'm not having sexual relations in a context that I believe is wrong and that I don't want.
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I think it depends on the circumstances. Women that dress like prick-teasers and/or sluts will attract a lot of males to them, like bees to a honey-pot, but, are often not that great in the sack, in my experience.
Seriously?

Just to be clear this is NOT what I meant about the reaction of men. . .
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Au contraire. One of the causes of my happiness is that I'm not having sexual relations in a context that I believe is wrong and that I don't want.
Well ok, but what about Christian dating sites? Think about it, bored and lonely Christian women, they've been saving themselves up, which means they're gagging for it, they're out there on the dating sites and they're looking for a good Christian husband - and that could be you, 80s!

Think of it - voltupuous women with child bearin hip and blow job lips that have been saving themselves up for years and years and they're so horny right now you wouldn't believe it. Thousands of them out there, waiting for a dip of ye' old spear. What are you waiting, for, dive in!
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Au contraire. One of the causes of my happiness is that I'm not having sexual relations in a context that I believe is wrong and that I don't want.

and i think that this is what i've come to understand about you 80s, and i'm sure others, and this is where i think you're different from the majority of posters on here.

because of the role of religion in your life, it would cause you great stress to do something you believed to be wrong -- sex outside of marriage -- and that would be a greater cause of stress than it is for you to subdue your natural sexual urges. you've made a decision about the role that sex will play in your life, and you want to adhere to that decision.

i can think of many reasons why i think it is a mistake to wait for marriage, but those reasons are nothing compared to the reasons you've been given to wait by the Bible.

don't want to put words in your mouth -- is this fair?
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and i think that this is what i've come to understand about you 80s, and i'm sure others, and this is where i think you're different from the majority of posters on here.

because of the role of religion in your life, it would cause you great stress to do something you believed to be wrong -- sex outside of marriage -- and that would be a greater cause of stress than it is for you to subdue your natural sexual urges. you've made a decision about the role that sex will play in your life, and you want to adhere to that decision.

i can think of many reasons why i think it is a mistake to wait for marriage, but those reasons are nothing compared to the reasons you've been given to wait by the Bible.

don't want to put words in your mouth -- is this fair?
Very fair, and very respectful and very nice.

But truth is, I know i won't be getting married, so it's not really a "wait" decision.
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