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Old 05-09-2010, 09:05 PM   #1
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Inside the dangerously empty lives of teenage girls

Spotted this magazine cover in the supermarket yesterday so found the article online. Do you think it's exaggerated or a fair portrayal?

Inside the dangerously empty lives of teenage girls - Books, The Interview - Macleans.ca

A few points struck me as expressing the performance aspect of sexuality as potentially damaging (not empowering) that I couldn't quite put my finger on when reacting to the girls gone wild article in the bi thread.
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Christ, who knows. Maybe it's more a case of 'Inside the Dangerously Empty Lives and Minds of (Some) Teenage Girls (And Boys)
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^^Yeah, that sounds about right. Haven't people for generations been wringing their hands over the horrifying state of the teenaged life?
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I think that the media environment has become much more sexualised than when most of us on the forum were growing up. If you look at pop music, the videos and lyrics have become blatantly sexual whereas, previously, it was hinted at. I personally think Lady Gaga is a great artist and musician, but I'm not sure if she is the best role model to be presenting to teenage girls. Madonna's book back in '91 was a big scandal but now if such a book was released it would barely raise an eyebrow.

As regards the article, the stats on cutting/burning are in themselves deeply troubling.
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I think if this guy were just a researcher, I'd be less skeptical. He's got books to sell
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Dr. Leonard Sax is a family physician and founder of the National Association for Single Sex Public Education, who lives in Pennsylvania with his wife and daughter. The author of two previous books concerning the effects of gender differences on learning, Sax argues in his new book, Girls on the Edge, that today’s teens and tweens look confident on the outside but have a dangerously fragile sense of self.

first, he's an advocate for single-sex education -- that's an agenda right there.

and the last line seems to describe teenagers as they've always been.

the stuff about the blow jobs is interesting, but i think there are many different ways to interpret the behavior, and ultimately, no one is getting pregnant from a blow job.

pressure, however, is very real, and increasing, and something that i don't think people had to deal with as much 20, 30, and 40 years ago. especially not girls from 40 years ago, which i think is the big thing. now, more than 50% of college students are women. perhaps stress and anxiety is the price of equality?
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first, he's an advocate for single-sex education -- that's an agenda right there.
Ad-hominem - but everyone has an agenda.

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and the last line seems to describe teenagers as they've always been.
Not really, there was no such thing as a teenager until James Dean invented the idea.

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the stuff about the blow jobs is interesting, but i think there are many different ways to interpret the behavior, and ultimately, no one is getting pregnant from a blow job.
Yes, but that is hardly the most astounding thing in the article is it?

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pressure, however, is very real, and increasing, and something that i don't think people had to deal with as much 20, 30, and 40 years ago. especially not girls from 40 years ago, which i think is the big thing. now, more than 50% of college students are women. perhaps stress and anxiety is the price of equality?
When one third of teenage girls cut themselves, then it's just a price of equality?
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When 25% of teenage girls cut themselves, then it's just a price of equality?
Theres no way thats true
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Ad-hominem
not if theres a conflict of interest
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When one third of teenage girls cut themselves, then it's just a price of equality?


i thought it was 1 in 5? it still seems a bit out-there.

but i do think kids are more and more pressured today than ever before, and that girls face pressures today that they didn't 30 years ago.

i also think this guy really, really underestimates what's going on with teenage boys, pretending that they're just a bunch of easygoing goofballs. i certainly wasn't.
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Theres no way thats true
Is it also untrue that that the usage of anti-depressants in the US has doubled in a decade?
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Its a culture that over prescribes medication. That doesnt surprise me at all
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Its a culture that over prescribes medication. That doesnt surprise me at all
Well, I'd tend to disagree. I would tend to argue that the structure of "modern life" is in itself alienating, and that it is this - more so than a culture of over-medication within some branches of the medical profession - that causes the sense of, for want of a better expression, disconnectedness, that causes so many people to require a little pharmaceutical aid now and again.

It is the system that is wrong - not the people.
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I have a sixteen year old daughter.

I honestly don't even know where to begin with this atricle.

So much of it just isn't true.
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but it will sell papers.
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