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Old 05-14-2010, 01:47 PM   #61
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It does give the impression of a concerted effort, whether it was or not

It reminds me of those kid beauty pageant shows-the kids are wearing inappropriate outfits and hair and makeup and clothes in some sort of strange effort to one up everyone else's kids and take it to the next level. Where does it stop?

That parent saying the dancing girls weren't meant to be seen by millions of people just sticks in my head-if it's just about dancing and their talent then why wouldn't you want them to be? If you have to be worried about the outfits or the dance being seen by millions, then perhaps that's telling you something.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:52 PM   #62
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For what it's worth, I'm not bothered that some people disagree about those little girls' dance. I'm not trying to convince people that they're wrong or anything.

I know it's one of those things that people will usually disagree on.



 


Except Beav. I'm always quietly judging him.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:56 PM   #63
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I'm not trying to do that either-just for me it's cringeworthy and one example of what the original article talked about. Like I said, if it was my daughter no way. Just me. Other people have different ideas and impressions about it.

BBC News - Padded bikini for girls withdrawn

I'm also curious what kinds of dances the boys that age do, if there are boy dance teams there
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:42 PM   #64
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That is just sad

how are these 7 year old girls going to have a posative self image now.

perhaps they should give them adjustable implants
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:24 AM   #65
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It's just what people her age do . I'm surprised he didn't bring up the fact that Adam Shankman is gay so there's nothing sexual about it so that makes it ok-which is what some people are saying



Originally posted May 13th 2010 12:00 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

Billy Ray Cyrus is blowing off the controversy over his then 16-year-old daughter Miley Cyrus grinding on a 44-year-old man -- saying, "It's what people her age do."

We spoke to Billy moments ago about the video that TMZ first posted yesterday -- Miley dirty dancing with Adam Shankman during the wrap party for her movie "The Last Song."

In a second clip to the video, Cyrus is seen giving Shankman a lap dance while children under the age of 10 sit less than five feet away watching the Hannah Montana star.

Some parents even took their kids and left the party
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:11 AM   #66
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True, teens give each other lap dances. I'm fine with that as long as both parties are teens, not a 16 year old girl and a 44 year old man. He's old enough to be her father! He should've told her to stop, especially since there were much younger children around watching her.

I've been reading on some gossip columns where some are predicting Miley is the next Lindsay Lohan. While that is a harsh comparison, I could see why some are saying that. Miley's parents don't seem to care that their daughter is acting risque with and around the wrong people. Heck, they allowed her to do that Annie Leibovitz photo with her lying across her father's crotch, so why would they care if she gave lap dances to 44 year old men? Those parents who took their kids and left the party were much better parents than Miley's.
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Except Beav. I'm always quietly judging him.
That's kinda creepy. And yet, I'm honored.
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I'm stalking you ... with judgment!
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But female.


So....you can't be God. LOLPWND by GOD's misogyny.
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God's misogyny is why teenaged girls' lives are so dangerously empty.
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the recent vid footage of the girls reminds me of how in the 80s it was viewed as similar with the Uk's the Mini Pops

I mean I saw some footage of the girl in the top right corner, and it has an adult line in the song.

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Mini Pops! Oh my god, I remember that. It was like the Kidz Bop of the 80s.
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Reality TV fixture Kim Kardashian may have raised a few (unfrozen) eyebrows with her recent admission that she’s already used Botox at age 30.

But for some young women, the question seems to be, “What took you so long?”

“I wanted to be cute, to look cute, but I had these ugly lines in between my eyebrows and on my forehead,” says Stephanie Torres, 19, of New York. “So I asked if I could get Botox. My mom paid for it. It was like a little birthday present.”

Torres, who went under the needle at age 18, is one of many teens and early 20somethings who are turning to Botox in an effort to not only smooth existing furrows, but fend off the aging process itself.

“We do a lot of Botox, and there’s definitely a propensity for younger people doing it,” says Dr. Glenn Vallecillos, a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. “I’d say 30 percent of my clients are 20 to 25 years old and probably 5 to 8 percent are under age 20. The trend, at least at our offices, is younger people.”


In 2009, the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery reported 12,110 Botox or Dysport (another wrinkle-relaxing shot) procedures performed on patients 18 and under (in 2008, the number was 8,194) while the American Society of Plastic Surgeons found 11,889 cosmetic Botox/Dysport procedures were performed on patients age 13 to 19 (an increase of 2 percent from 2008).

While smoothing wrinkles is just one of many uses (the toxin is also used to treat heavy sweating, crossed eyes, migraines and neurological disorders), recent reports of teens as young as 15 getting Botox have prompted organizations such as the Physician’s Coalition for Injectable Safety to come out against a “teen toxing trend.”

“I’ve heard from colleagues that kids are coming in with their moms and saying, ‘Can I have Botox, too? I feel like I need it,’” says Dr. Mark Jewell, a plastic surgeon from Eugene, Ore., and spokesperson for the Coalition. “Botox is a blockbuster of a product, but should a teenager be getting it? I think the answer is no.”

Other practitioners, like New York-based plastic surgeon Dr. Jeffrey Yager, say Botox can sometimes be beneficial in younger patients.

“The great majority of people under 21 don’t need Botox, but there are some who do, and they shouldn’t be excluded just because of their age as long as they’re over 18 and understand the risks and benefits,” he says. “Each patient need needs to be properly evaluated – you can never say always or never.”

Jewell concedes that Botox “may be appropriate” for a teen if “there’s a convincing reason,” but is mainly worried teen toxing reports could lead to unsafe practices.

“I think the biggest thing here is helping young people make good decisions,” he says.

Torres, the 19-year-old who opted for Botox to erase the “squint lines” she saw after switching from glasses to contacts, says she and her friends don’t see anything wrong with cosmetic procedures, even at age 18.

“We’re surrounded by it,” she says. “It’s in all the magazines, and all of my friends’ moms do Botox. If you’re really not happy with yourself and how you look, why not get it taken care of?”

The attitude that all flaws need to be “taken care of” is precisely the problem, says Roni Cohen-Sandler, a clinical psychologist and author of “Trust Me, Mom – Everyone Else is Going!”


“I don’t know about the medical implications of the long-term use of Botox-like agents, but what disturbs me is the underlying preoccupation with youth and avoiding ‘imperfection,’” she says. “Are they so afraid of laugh lines or natural aging? They’re growing up with the mentality that there is a quick fix for not being ‘enough’ in every way, whether it’s Adderall to get better grades or surgery to change the size or shape of their breasts.”

But there can be extenuating circumstances, says Colleen Dozark, a 58-year-old billing manager from Omaha, Neb., whose daughter got Botox injections at age 16.

“She had a terrible crease in the middle of her forehead,” she says. “[The Botox] wasn’t changing her looks in any way; it was more of a preventative measure to train her not to frown there. I only allowed it because it was such a severe crease for a young girl and it was kind of bothering her.”

But Cohen-Sandler says cosmetic “fixes” not only counter healthy messages — for example, telling girls it’s who they are and what they do that count, not what they look like — they also set young women up for a lifetime of costly procedures.


Tracy Drumm, a 27-year-old marketing director from Chicago who first opted for Botox at age 19, says she’s continued to use it over the years as a way to shape her eyebrows (Botox gives them an arch) and fend off signs of aging.

“If you’re not using the muscles to create wrinkles in the first place, they’re not going to appear,” says Drumm, who estimates she’s had about 15 or 16 procedures so far. “Why would I stop if it’s going to help me prevent having wrinkles that I don’t want?”

But not everyone who’s used Botox at a young age is trying to stop the clock.

“If it’s for a good reason, like a deep-set wrinkle, then I think it’s great,” says Dozark’s daughter Jessica Baldwin, now a 26-year-old health specialist from Fayetteville, N.C.

“But if it’s just because you don’t want wrinkles, that’s tough. Because everybody ages, whether you want to or not.”
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As someone who is still a teenager ...

Holy shit, some people in this thread are really overreacting.
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