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Old 05-10-2010, 09:58 PM   #31
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I'm Facebook friends with a friend's teenage daughter, and I cringe when I see updates throughout what should be the school day. Sure they all could be from between classes, but I doubt it.

Oh well. She's a great kid.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:17 PM   #32
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I'm Facebook friends with a friend's teenage daughter, and I cringe when I see updates throughout what should be the school day. Sure they all could be from between classes, but I doubt it.

Oh well. She's a great kid.
My brother is a high school teacher. He says 90% of the kids have an iPhone or Blackberry. They're on it all day, and there is really no point in fighting with them over it anymore unless you, as a teacher, wish to spend the bulk of your teaching time doing so.

I don't understand why these parents are paying some $80/month for this. I mean, as an adult with a job I find my cell phone(s) to be a significant expense. There isn't a question in my mind that it would have been a cold day in hell before my parents did any such thing.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:55 PM   #33
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i get the phone addiction, though. a significant portion of my working life is conducted through my Crackberry b/c i am on the road so much, and because many people are working around the clock, i like being able to respond to issues when they arise rather than walking in to the office in the morning and checking my email and seeing 1001 issues/problems/questions that need to be dealt with. at first it totally stressed me out, but i'm much more Zen about it.

it does make it harder to unplug, and when i go on vacation, i make it a point to be in a blackout -- no phone, no internet, no TV. it's critical to unplug.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:00 AM   #34
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I don't understand why these parents are paying some $80/month for this. I mean, as an adult with a job I find my cell phone(s) to be a significant expense. There isn't a question in my mind that it would have been a cold day in hell before my parents did any such thing.
I remember a 'kids and cellphones' thread a while back. For me, as a parent, it's a matter of being able to stay in touch at all times. It's also a matter of safety. If my child was in some sort of trouble, being followed, or in any situation they needed to get out of immediately, I want to be at their fingertips. I can't put a price on that.
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I remember a 'kids and cellphones' thread a while back. For me, as a parent, it's a matter of being able to stay in touch at all times. It's also a matter of safety. If my child was in some sort of trouble, being followed, or in any situation they needed to get out of immediately, I want to be at their fingertips. I can't put a price on that.


i understand this 100%. for all the negative, a cell phone is a godsend when it comes to safety.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:03 AM   #36
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After reading my sons Facebook (which he knows I do) and when I found out about Formspring.me, I felt like I was reading soft porn. It was mostly coming from the girls. Whether they were really doing the things they said or just making up stuff for the popularity of it I don't know.

I banned my son from Formspring.me because the content he was reading (and he was only reading not posting). I thought it would warp his perception of what girls are really like and what they would want from a boy. I told him I could give him a Playboy magazine if he wanted to continue reading Formspring at least it was adults with experienced talking about sexual behavior and not 12,13 and 14 year old girls that may not know what they are talking about even means. I didn't want him to think that all girls had these behaviors. (BTW my son is 14).
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If we wanted a cell phone (or any gadget beyond the family TV and family computer), we were more than welcome to add a few blocks to our paper route or take on a few more babysitting gigs and get one ourselves. I had few rules as a teenager. I never once had a cell phone (still don't) and only one of my friends ever did and yet, I somehow always managed to let my mother know where I was and who I was with so I could be trusted to come and go as I pleased. It's really just a matter of who can afford it and who can't. Those parents that can't are not any less concerned with safety. It's a wonder we all survived I guess...

Like Irvine I get the phone addiction for work. I simply cannot do my work with just a phone, even the smartest PDA/smartphone out there. But I challenge anyone to pry my little laptop from my grasp! I need it for everything from my 8-5 job to my freelance jobs to my work for the dog clubs. The only time I don't get an e-mail alert on the computer within minutes is because I'm either sleeping or intentionally not near the computer and do not want to be contacted.

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it does make it harder to unplug, and when i go on vacation, i make it a point to be in a blackout -- no phone, no internet, no TV. it's critical to unplug.
I always thought it would but lately the vacations I've taken do not have phone coverage or Internet access and I am amazed at how little I care. It's like if it's not there, it's not there and I'm over it in about 5 seconds.

Someone I know who is also a teacher said she tells her students you have to be 21 to be her facebook friend.
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7 year olds. Is it just what people might project onto this and it's really just cute harmless imitation or is it about putting on a mask that they can't possibly understand?

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I remember a 'kids and cellphones' thread a while back. For me, as a parent, it's a matter of being able to stay in touch at all times. It's also a matter of safety. If my child was in some sort of trouble, being followed, or in any situation they needed to get out of immediately, I want to be at their fingertips. I can't put a price on that.
That's true, but it doesn't really require an iPhone or a Blackberry. The problem that my brother says he has with cell phones in the class is that the kids are constantly on the internet or texting each other, or using iPhone apps to play games, etc.

I guess I just find it hard to fathom that my parents would have been paying the $80+ that I pay on a monthly basis for an iPhone voice/data/texting, etc. plan. A cheap pay-as-you-go phone, sure that I can see. Though like Lies said, it's funny that we all managed to survive without them just a few years earlier and without major societal calamities.
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I can only speak for what goes on in my family and what I am comfortable with.

I pay $80 a month for all three phones on my family plan, hardly a staggering expense.

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7 year olds. Is it just what people might project onto this and it's really just cute harmless imitation or is it about putting on a mask that they can't possibly understand?
My vote is for the latter. It's not just the skimpy costumes, and it's not just the dancing, it's the two of them combined.

I'm not all Won't Somebody Think Of The Childreeeeeeen!!, but my gut reaction to it is discomfort and that it's inappropriate.
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My vote is for the latter. It's not just the skimpy costumes, and it's not just the dancing, it's the two of them combined.

I'm not all Won't Somebody Think Of The Childreeeeeeen!! but my gut reaction to it is discomfort and that it's inappropriate
Agree.

Didn't someone once say that it takes a village?

In this video, the villagers seem to have lost their minds.
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Didn't someone once say that it takes a village?


it's an old African proverb.
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My vote is for the latter. It's not just the skimpy costumes, and it's not just the dancing, it's the two of them combined.

I'm not all Won't Somebody Think Of The Childreeeeeeen!!, but my gut reaction to it is discomfort and that it's inappropriate.
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They're pretty much burlesque dancing. Theres a direct connection with sex/sexuality. Its pretty gross
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What's to worry about

I am sure these 7 year olds have cell phones
they can always send a text:

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