In case there was any doubt, Sarah Palin is bat shit crazy.

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There were feminists that used sexist arguments against Palin running like that she couldn't have kids and run at the same time. That's old news.
Considering the amount of time and money the women's rights movement has expended on efforts to improve daycare, maternity leave, and other policies intended to support working mothers over the last four decades (speaking of "old news"), it would be very surprising if a typically "feminist" critique of Palin involved blasting her for running for office while having children at home.
 
Don't tell anyone, but I have black friends,
Don't show them what you wrote in here earlier.:wink:

Seriously, thank you for the apology.


and there are gay members of our college Republicans group.

But this I just don't get. The one time in life you just shouldn't be a Republican is in college, but then to be gay on top of that... I feel sorry for them 99% of their party things they are wrong and wants to deny them rights...:sad:
 
Considering the amount of time and money the women's rights movement has expended on efforts to improve daycare, maternity leave, and other policies intended to support working mothers over the last four decades (speaking of "old news"), it would be very surprising if a typically "feminist" critique of Palin involved blasting her for running for office while having children at home.

Yeah I doubt this as well, if I remember right there was a very small group of conservative women that spoke up because of her child with special needs and thought a VP couldn't do both jobs, I don't remember any typical feminist groups.
 
could you offer an example? a source?

Sally Quinn:

YouTube - Sexist Sally Quinn and the Double Standard of the Media

Though she apologized later:

YouTube - Sally Quinn Apologizes for Sarah Palin Remarks

YouTube - John Roberts Palin Might Neglect Her Disabled Child

This one here pretty much says that you need to be a socialist to be a feminist:

Whine Not

Another one that says you need to be pro more social programs to really be a feminist:

Sarah Zamboni clears the ice on working mothers - The Boston Globe

Feminists are liberals first and feminists second.
 
But what does
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think? :hmm:

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pitty... she must be a liberal.
 
Maybe you aren't jealous of her but there definately lots that were rubbed the wrong way because of her accomplishments and good looks.

But there is always an implication that it's women who are jealous of her. And I don't know how you've come to conclude what rubbed women the wrong way, either. Every woman I know was offended by the idea of Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency and NONE of them were offended because she was a) accomplished or b) good looking. In fact, that never even entered the conversation.
 
I was offended by the Republicans' assumption that I'd vote for a girl just because she was a girl. :rolleyes:

well as you see by the insinuation that because the view thinks it was bad, all females think it's bad, that certain republicans think all vaginas are the same.

at least they believe in equality in some ways, i suppose
 
well as you see by the insinuation that because the view thinks it was bad, all females think it's bad, that certain republicans think all vaginas are the same.

Shit, have you people ever watched The View? I can't sit through 30 seconds of them yelling over one another while holding their steaming mugs of whatever the hell they're drinking.

My vagina is gonna be revoked now.
 
Sally Quinn:

YouTube - Sexist Sally Quinn and the Double Standard of the Media

Though she apologized later:

YouTube - Sally Quinn Apologizes for Sarah Palin Remarks

YouTube - John Roberts Palin Might Neglect Her Disabled Child

This one here pretty much says that you need to be a socialist to be a feminist:

Whine Not

Another one that says you need to be pro more social programs to really be a feminist:

Sarah Zamboni clears the ice on working mothers - The Boston Globe

Feminists are liberals first and feminists second.

I don't know where to start with this post. Do you know Sally's "feminists" standings or John's for that matter?

The Whine Not article had almost nothing to do with the premise of your first statement.

And I'm almost sure you didn't even read the Zamboni article...

Wow.
 
Sally Quinn:
In a 1992 article in the Washington Post, Sally Quinn compared the leaders of NOW to the apparatchiks of the Communist Party in the former Soviet Union. She concluded, "many women have come to see the feminist movement as anti-male, anti-child, anti-family, anti-feminine."
Yeah, sounds like she's been gulping that feminazi Koolaid all right. :eyebrow:


John Roberts Palin Might Neglect Her Disabled Child
And the evidence for his being a feminist...?


Um, I don't see how this (from the link) helps your argument?
Shortly after her selection, John Roberts at CNN questioned whether Palin should be out on the campaign trail with a special-needs four-month-old...This is the sort of judgmental mommy-war nonsense that would never be directed at a male politician: No one seriously thought Al Gore should have stayed home and stopped saving Planet Earth when his son was nabbed breaking the speed limit last year in a drug-laced Prius.


Again, I don't see how this text helps your argument?
Nevertheless the good news for this cockeyed optimist is that Palin has made it politically incorrect to criticize working mothers. They are the demilitarized zone of the cultural battleground.
 
Shit, have you people ever watched The View? I can't sit through 30 seconds of them yelling over one another while holding their steaming mugs of whatever the hell they're drinking.

My vagina is gonna be revoked now.

:tsk: fore shame.

you should share the same opinion of star jones and rosie o'donnell, otherwise you're not a real woman.
 
Shit, have you people ever watched The View? I can't sit through 30 seconds of them yelling over one another while holding their steaming mugs of whatever the hell they're drinking.

My vagina is gonna be revoked now.



What a sexist remark :no:


(oops, you are black, you get to use the N-word, sorry)
 
I don't know where to start with this post. Do you know Sally's "feminists" standings or John's for that matter?

John Roberts is not a liberal? :lol:

The Whine Not article had almost nothing to do with the premise of your first statement.

And I'm almost sure you didn't even read the Zamboni article...

Wow.

It had "almost" nothing to do with the premise?

Liberals think that to be feminist you have to be pro more social programs for women and because Palin has a high salary then it makes her a throwback.

The problem with liberals is that they demand standards without thinking about the ability to pay. Even Yolland used a similar argument before my last post. Like I said liberals first and feminists second.
 
i await the full-throated, outraged, denunciations from diamond of THIS particular senator:






let us note: Sen. Ensign (R-NV) has been a vocal opponent of same-sex marriage, supported a constiutional amendment banning it, and called on President Clinton to resign over the Lewinsky affair. he also called for Sen. Craig's resignation after his incident in the airport restroom.

go get 'em, diamond!

It's sad isn't it?

The man's a hypocrite.

I think he's on his way out, plus more importantly his marriage is over.

Very sad.

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Liberals think that to be feminist you have to be pro more social programs for women and because Palin has a high salary then it makes her a throwback.

You always and I mean always come up with these sweeping generalizations, most of the time ridiculous, I might add.

Who are these liberals? I don't think that. The women I work with all make more money than Sarah Palin, and guess what, they don't think they're throwbacks and they're by and large...feminists. I know, crazy, right? Like, you might actually be wrong. :ohmy:
 
John Roberts is not a liberal? :lol:
To be honest I don't know much about Roberts at all, but I know liberals that I wouldn't consider feminist and vice versa. By your logic ALL conservatives are anti-feminists?


Liberals think that to be feminist you have to be pro more social programs for women and because Palin has a high salary then it makes her a throwback.
You didn't really get anything out of that article. :doh:

The problem with liberals is that they demand standards without thinking about the ability to pay. Even Yolland used a similar argument before my last post. Like I said liberals first and feminists second.

The problem with conservatives besides their reading comprehension is that they can't stick to the subject at hand.

We're not here to discuss the articles, if you understood I'd be willing to debate them with you in a relevant thread.

But the whole point is that you stated: "There were feminists that used sexist arguments against Palin running like that she couldn't have kids and run at the same time. "

And you really haven't shown this to be true, you would rather make lots of sweeping generalizations, post youtube videos and change the subject. Which like anitram said, you ALWAYS do.
 
John Roberts is not a liberal?
Wait, so you're making an argument that 'liberal' and 'feminist' are inherently synonymous? I thought that was supposed to be a closeminded librul feminist argument?
Liberals think that to be feminist you have to be pro more social programs for women and because Palin has a high salary then it makes her a throwback.
A throwback to what? The old days when rich mothers worked while poor mothers stayed home, which in fact was the reverse of socioeconomic reality prior to the latter half of the 20th century?
The problem with liberals is that they demand standards without thinking about the ability to pay. Even Yolland used a similar argument before my last post.
What on earth are you talking about? My pointing out that networks' reliance on corporate advertising imposes limits on artistic freedom?
 
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