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Old 06-17-2009, 02:28 PM   #391
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apparently, marriage needed someone to defend it.

his marriage.
He cheated on his wife because our society allowed Adam and Steve to get married in San Francisco.
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It's just a word in the dictionary, just a word.
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A born-again Christian, Ensign has been a member of the Promise Keepers, a male evangelical group that promotes marital fidelity.

When former Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in an airport men’s room in the summer of 2007, Ensign was among Craig’s toughest critics, saying Craig should step down.

"I wouldn’t put myself, hopefully, in that kind of position, but if I was in a position like that, that’s what I would do," Ensign told The Associated Press at the time.

During the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton, Ensign, then a Senate candidate, called on Clinton to resign.
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I think it's really lame and tiresome when people keep accusing women of being envious and/or jealous of Sarah Palin because she's such an accomplished woman who has everything.

It's lazy and it's pathetic.
This is precisely what liberals have repeatedly said, and still say, about opposition to Hillary Clinton! Criticisms of Hillary are repeatedly assigned to envy (although usually, it's male opponents that are said to be envious, in this case). And you say this liberal hypocrisy is just an invention of mine.
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apparently, marriage needed someone to defend it.

his marriage.
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U.S. Senator John Ensign resigned from a party leadership post on Wednesday after admitting an affair with a female staffer.

"He's accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized to his family and constituents. He offered, and I accepted, his resignation as chairman of the (Senate Republican) Policy Committee," said Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell.
he has certainly lived by the sword

he begins to feel the blade.
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This is precisely what liberals have repeatedly said, and still say, about opposition to Hillary Clinton! Criticisms of Hillary are repeatedly assigned to envy (although usually, it's male opponents that are said to be envious, in this case).
I honestly don't know what you're talking about here.

I've heard a whole panoply of arguments about why the opposition to Hillary exists, and I can't say that envy is one of them. Truly and honestly.

And for the record, I wasn't a Hillary supporter either.
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you're just jealous of her because she got some talented gay guy to buy her a lot of awesome clothes with Republican money.
It's interesting, actually, that this point is regularly made by liberal media pundit critics of Palin, yet all she did was buy herself a few nice clothes. Big deal. Why shouldn't she buy some new clothes if she was running for the second highest office of the land? Underlying this is, I think, a subtle form of real misogyny (as opposed to the largely fake accusations of misogyny that liberals sometimes throw at opponents for political reasons) A male candidate that decided to, for example, splash out on a new sportscar mid-campaign would hardly attract any attention at all.
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his marriage.
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I honestly don't know what you're talking about here.

I've heard a whole panoply of arguments about why the opposition to Hillary exists, and I can't say that envy is one of them. Truly and honestly.

And for the record, I wasn't a Hillary supporter either.
Yeah, I don't recall a 'Hillary envy' narrative either.

Also, I would reiterate what BonosSaint pointed out earlier, which is that many of the most mean-spirited swipes at Hillary during the election in fact came from Obama supporters, not conservatives. And like anitram, I'm speaking here as someone who never supported Hillary myself.
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It's interesting, actually, that this point is regularly made by liberal media pundit critics of Palin, yet all she did was buy herself a few nice clothes. Big deal. Why shouldn't she buy some new clothes if she was running for the second highest office of the land? Underlying this is, I think, a subtle form of real misogyny (as opposed to the largely fake accusations of misogyny that liberals sometimes throw at opponents for political reasons) A male candidate that decided to, for example, splash out on a new sportscar mid-campaign would hardly attract any attention at all.
It would if it was the RNC paying for it, do you understand what's going on?
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This is precisely what liberals have repeatedly said, and still say, about opposition to Hillary Clinton! Criticisms of Hillary are repeatedly assigned to envy (although usually, it's male opponents that are said to be envious, in this case). And you say this liberal hypocrisy is just an invention of mine.

Source please?
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It's interesting, actually, that this point is regularly made by liberal media pundit critics of Palin, yet all she did was buy herself a few nice clothes. Big deal. Why shouldn't she buy some new clothes if she was running for the second highest office of the land? Underlying this is, I think, a subtle form of real misogyny (as opposed to the largely fake accusations of misogyny that liberals sometimes throw at opponents for political reasons) A male candidate that decided to, for example, splash out on a new sportscar mid-campaign would hardly attract any attention at all.

maybe if she had something to offer other than clothes?
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maybe if she had something to offer other than clothes?
Seemingly, 59,948,240 Americans disagreed with the liberal assessment that Palin (being a woman) was just an airhead clothes horse.
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Seemingly, 59,948,240 Americans disagreed with the liberal assessment that Palin (being a woman) was just an airhead clothes horse.
And probably most of them still think that Saddam and 9/11 are connected...
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Seemingly, 59,948,240 Americans disagreed with the liberal assessment that Palin (being a woman) was just an airhead clothes horse.
Really? How many voted for her vs McCain vs the ticket? Now you're trying too little.
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