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Old 10-12-2009, 02:22 PM   #31
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frequent hand washing and carrying around and using a bottle of purell will knock out any flu. if we're trying to help the community here, we need to be cleaner people, we don't necessarily have to load our body with vaccinations.

some people still don't wash their hands before they eat, or after going potty, or don't cover their mouth when coughing or sneezing, yet they wanna get vaccinated? that's ridic.
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I'm not criticising anyone who wants to get vaccinated here at all - but I agree that a whole raft of cold/flu type illnesses could be contained if basic hand washing and hygiene were adhered to . . . harder to police in schools etc with little people especially, but we adults could go a long way in teaching them the basics! aaaaaand if workplaces were more understanding about the potential severity of flu/colds and more lenient with their workers leave etc then less people would have to adopt the whole 'soldier on' mentatlity and the spread would be inhibited somewhat as well.

I have three kids and hublet and I are still undecided - I can't seem to find enough information regarding side affects and such to satisfy me.

If the main health body here in Oz stated that all kids under the age of *insert age here* should be vaccinated then I'd think more seriously about it, but really the whole hooha surrounding the swine flu has me shaking my head just a little - (please understand I'm not dissing the gravity of people becoming ill or god forbid dying from it, not at all) - just feels a little like the media taking hold of a headline and stirring up some hysteria where none is needed.

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ps - Khanada Rhodes, don't know what rock I've been living under, but so sorry to hear you have been so ill . .. good to know you're back on the road to wellness though
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:31 PM   #32
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i totally agree with you, especially about workplaces. it's ridiculous how many bosses expect you to show up every day unless you're bleeding from the eyeballs or something. imo, if you're contagious, stay home. it's dangerous for a boss to force someone with a contagious disease to come into work because then you're putting the entire department, even the entire company at risk. i look at it that if a school would send a child home due to illness, so should a company. i know in the "real world" when you're an adult you're expected to be tough and deal with being sick, but in some cases it really is best if the person stays home. i've no idea how supportive bosses are being to those who do get the flu, but i'm sure there's some who are like "if you're breathing you can work!"

oh and thanks for the well wishes. i'm pretty much all better, just have the occasional sniffles but for the most part all i feel is tired.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:39 PM   #33
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^ Luckily b/c I work in IT we have the opposite, we are asked to stay home if we are sick/contagious. It's gross to be touching other people's computers and equipment when you are coughing and your nose is running. We also do phone support so for instance, I am home today b/c I've been sick for two weeks and now have a cough with no voice. No one wants to call in and hear someone coughing and sniffling into the phone with no voice.

I also get follicular impetigo pretty often, and sometimes stay home b/c of that, thanks to most websites giving the general public the belief that this is highly contagious. In my case, my body acts "allergic" to the staph bacteria that normally live on human skin, so I am not contagious (according to my doctor) but I know schools send kids home because of it.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:42 PM   #34
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. . . and the flow on effect for many working parents is that if their bosses are not understanding then what do they with their kids . . . yup, send em to school . . .so it really is a cycle that can be a difficult one to break.

I've been doing some fill in work at my boys primary school for the last little while and was working when the whole swine flu thing first took hold and was absolutely staggered at the number of people who sent their clearly unwell kids to school - its difficult to find a balance I know but if your kid is hacking up a lung, running a fever and is spending the day in sick bay . . . . . . . I am really lucky in that my boss is pretty understanding (although I will stress that if I don't show up for work I don't get paid so that can be a stress but its a no brainer for me if my kids aren't well enough anyway) but I do know a lot of mums and dads who just don't have that luxury . . . there's a lot to be said for understanding and compassion but in the real world,when it comes to chasing the dollar, it just seems to fly out the window
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i totally agree with both of you. i'm glad to hear you guys have sympathetic bosses.

another rationale i suppose for sending a sick kid to school is if the parents can't get off work even though they're sick too (or would just need to care for their child), then they have no choice. it's not like a day care would accept a sick child. i just wish bosses would be a bit more sympathetic in these cases. really, i wish some kind of law could be passed that a boss cannot fire, write up, whatever a person who is contagious and cannot work or has a child who is contagious and cannot go to school.

it seems due to the amount of press coverage swine flu's been getting, bosses are much more understanding. but what about past years when it's been regular old flu? or any other of the many contagious diseases out there? i've personally never been a victim of getting in trouble at work for something like that, but of course i know it goes on.
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I am glad my work is sympathetic. It does kinda suck because we work from a collective pool of work orders and the call center, so when someone is sick everyone else HAS to do that person's work (it's not like tomorrow I will go back and be behind on my own work, someone else had to do my phone shifts and the work orders I would have completed today), but when you are sick you are sick....
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it is very disappopinting that so many of you have posted that you will not get the vaccine for your kids.

Kids are dying, the vaccine is safe and it works.

In this day and and age it is easy to get a lot of information, especially with the internet.

It does not take a genius to shift though the bullshit and get down to the credible data.
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it is very disappopinting that so many of you have posted that you will not get the vaccine for your kids.

Kids are dying, the vaccine is safe and it works.

In this day and and age it is easy to get a lot of information, especially with the internet.

It does not take a genius to shift though the bullshit and get down to the credible data.
it's very disappointing that old people these days are so full of their own righteous opinions.
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Are you really disappointed, do you really care about what I think or believe?

There are very serious health risks here, children are at great risk.
I have not found any credible side effects danger.


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* Total influenza hospitalization rates for laboratory-confirmed influenza are higher than expected for this time of year for adults and children. And for children 5-17 and adults 18-49 years of age, hospitalization rates from April – October 2009 exceed average flu season rates (for October through April).

* The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) based on the 122 Cities Report has increased and now exceeds what is normally expected at this time of year. In addition, 19 flu-related pediatric deaths were reported this week; 16 of these deaths were confirmed 2009 H1N1 and 3 were unsubtyped influenza A and likely to be 2009 H1N1. A total of 76 laboratory confirmed 2009 H1N1 pediatric deaths have been reported to CDC since April.

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There are very serious health risks here, children are at great risk.
I have not found any credible side effects danger.
Me either....
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it sucks. we can't even get the normal flu vaccine for our 6 month old because they've run out. and we're in America, not some less important country.
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it sucks. we can't even get the normal flu vaccine for our 6 month old because they've run out. and we're in America, not some less important country.
come visit me. the grocery store by my house has a sign up, flu vaccines for $25.
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frequent hand washing and carrying around and using a bottle of purell will knock out any flu. if we're trying to help the community here, we need to be cleaner people, we don't necessarily have to load our body with vaccinations.
Purell is a really, really terrible idea and I can't believe the extent to which it is advocated constantly.

It has played a significant role in the creation of super bugs, and on top of that, overdries your skin, making it susceptible to infection. Nevermind the fact that it kills microbes indiscriminately, so that it completely decimates the commensal bacterial layer.

I honestly cringe every time I see people squirting it all over their hands. If you wash your hands well and you wash them often, that's sufficient unless you are working around exclusively immuno-suppressed people. Which most of us are not.
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the vaccine is safe and it works.
When there is evidence of that from completed clinical trials on children, then that will be a true statement.

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It does not take a genius to shift though the bullshit and get down to the credible data.
I'm no genius, so I'd like to see the credible data you found on safety and efficacy of the H1N1 vaccine in children.
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come visit me. the grocery store by my house has a sign up, flu vaccines for $25.
yeah, they're doing that at a Walgreens near me too. something about taking my 6 month old to a Walgreens doesn't sit right with me though.
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