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Old 10-22-2008, 04:28 PM   #121
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That would be your choice, though I'm not sure being aborted is any less painful.
Depends on how far into the pregnancy the abortion takes place. If it's early on, the fetus is alive in the same way a plant is alive - that is, it is non-sentient life - that is, it can't feel anything, not even an abortion. Later in the pregnancy, it can.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:30 PM   #122
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i would want to protect my child from living a short life filled with pain.

We can put animals down if they are in pain, but not prevent a fetus from suffering much worse pain. flossymay was right, we do treat animals better than children.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:33 PM   #123
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Depends on how far into the pregnancy the abortion takes place. If it's early on, the fetus is alive in the same way a plant is alive - that is, it is non-sentient life - that is, it can't feel anything, not even an abortion. Later in the pregnancy, it can.
You're probably right; I mean having your limbs ripped off and your skull crushed probably doesn't hurt at all.

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That would be your choice, though I'm not sure being aborted is any less painful.


this is the point of the pro-choice argument. not that anyone *should* have an abortion, but that people must be able to make that decision for themselves.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:34 PM   #125
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What does that have to do with this debate?
Oh, just pointing out fallacy when I see it.

This isn't really a debate anyway, more like people talking past each other.
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This isn't really a debate anyway, more like people talking past each other.
pick a thread, any thread.
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If it's early on, the fetus is alive in the same way a plant is alive - that is, it is non-sentient life
I have to add here...are you serious??? A baby is not like a plant, I've never seen a plant with a heartbeat, but I HAVE seen my children with heart beats when they were just a few weeks old.
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It's not my right to decide if a person lives or dies. That right belongs to no man (or woman).
Who's right is it, then? It always comes back to god.

What about atheists? Do they have to concern themselves about a god they don't believe in?
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:38 PM   #129
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We can put animals down if they are in pain, but not prevent a fetus from suffering much worse pain. flossymay was right, we do treat animals better than children.

Would you seriously want to put a person "down" if they were in pain?
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Would you seriously want to put a person "down" if they were in pain?
Case by case basis, but yes.
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I have to add here...are you serious??? A baby is not like a plant, I've never seen a plant with a heartbeat, but I HAVE seen my children with heart beats when they were just a few weeks old.
Yeah, what do those doctors know?
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Would you seriously want to put a person "down" if they were in pain?
I'd give people who are in pain the right to decide this. Parents of course have the right to decide for their young children...unborn being an obvious subset of this.
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Yeah, what do those doctors know?
they don't know how to build retractable roofs, that's for sure!
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they don't know how to build retractable roofs, that's for sure!
I'm no architect, but I can tell you that's wrong.
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