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Old 02-18-2010, 08:47 PM   #1
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Hypocrisy in labellin guy flying plane into IRS building "not a terrorist"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/us...sh.html?ref=us
Plane Hits I.R.S. Building in Texas

By SEWELL CHAN
Published: February 18, 2010
In what federal and local officials called a criminal act, a man crashed a small plane Thursday morning into a seven-story office building in Austin, Tex., that houses offices of the Internal Revenue Service, the authorities said.

Thirteen people were injured, with two people still hospitalized, Austin officials said in an afternoon news conference. One person who worked in the building, along with the pilot, was still unaccounted for, they said.

President Obama was briefed on the situation by his counterterrorism adviser, John O. Brennan, at 12:35 p.m., according to Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary. But while the Department of Homeland Security was investigating the crash, federal officials emphasized that they did not consider the case to be a terrorist attack. Officials in Austin reiterated that point, calling it a “criminal” and not terrorist, attack.

“This appears to be a singular act by a single individual,” Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said at the news conference. “It appears to be contained to this facility, and there really truly is no cause for alarm. We’re lucky. We’ve been blessed that things could have been a lot worse.”

Yet Texas Gov. Rick Perry called the crash of the single-engine plane a “deliberate and intentional” act against a federal building that revealed security weaknesses since the Sept. 11 attacks.

The seven-story building, at 9430 Research Boulevard in northwest Austin, about seven miles northwest of the State Capitol, was consumed by flames after the crash. It continued to burn for hours, and by early afternoon firefighters had only been able to search the three lowest floors.

The authorities identified the pilot as Joseph A. Stack III, 53, and said his body had not yet been recovered from the building. The other person who was still unaccounted for was described by officials as a federal employee. A long, angry note posted on the Internet, on a Web site registered to Mr. Stack and signed “Joe Stack,” appeared to have been written by the pilot, though authorities had not confirmed the connection. By midafternoon, the company that hosted the site had taken the note down, saying it was acting at the request of the F.B.I.

The note related a long history of financial difficulties and frustrations with the nation’s tax and health care systems and with setbacks like the sharp decline of defense-related employment in southern California in the 1990s and the disruption of air travel after the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001. It ended with passages strongly suggesting that its author expected to die on Thursday, including a reference to Feb. 18, 2010, as his date of death.

“I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different,” the note concluded. “I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.”

The F.B.I., which set up a command post near the scene of the crash, has a small satellite office — part of the bureau’s San Antonio field office — in a different part of the office complex where the crash took place.

Bill Carter, an F.B.I. spokesman, said the criminal inquiry was in its early stages. “It’s a fluid situation that’s under investigation,” he said, which was echoed in a statement by Texas Gov. Perry. “There are a lot of indications but nothing definitive yet.”

As for Mr. Stack’s apparent suicide note, Mr. Carter said, “That’s being looked at by our San Antonio office, if that is a real note by this individual.”

The plane, a single-engine, fixed-wing Piper PA-28-236 Dakota, was registered in Mr. Stack’s name in California, according to aviation records. It took off from the Georgetown Municipal Airport, about 25 miles north of Austin, at 9:40 a.m., said Royce E. Curtin, an F.B.I. spokesman. At 9:55 a.m., witnesses reported seeing a low-flying aircraft in the vicinity of the office building. A minute later, the plane smashed into the building, he said. Mr. Curtin added that the forensic investigation would start in earnest after the building was deemed safe, and Mr. Stack’s identify could not be officially confirmed until then.

“The ceiling caved in and windows blew in,” Peggy Walker, an IRS revenue officer who was sitting at her desk in the building when the plane crashed, told The Associated Press.” We got up and ran,”

At least 13 people were treated at the scene after the crash, many of them suffering burn and heat inhalation injuries, said Ernie Rodriguez, chief of emergency medical services in Austin. He said two of those people were taken to a local hospital in critical condition. Firefighters were still putting out small pockets of fire Thursday afternoon and expected to begin combing through the ruins for the body of the pilot and the federal employee who was still unaccounted for. Chief Acevedo said the person’s family had been notified.

“I will just say that the prospects are not very positive for that person at this time,” he added.

While the building housed 190 I.R.S. employees, the agency’s main office has a much larger service center in Austin, about six miles southeast of the office building that was hit, which processes millions of tax returns from several states. In the initial confusion after the crash, workers there were alarmed about whether they too might be in danger, officials said.

As a precaution, the North American Aerospace Defense Command sent two F-16 fighter jets into the air from Ellington Air Force Base in Houston after the crash, to conduct an air patrol.” This response from Norad is a prudent precaution, and consistent with our response to recent similar air incidents,” said Jamie Graybeal, a civilian spokesman for Norad.

Employees and offices of the tax agency have faced threats and even attacks in other cities in the past. In December 1995, a bomb in a 30-gallon drum was found in a parking lot outside the I.R.S. office in Reno, Nev., but it failed to explode.

In April 1990, a firebomb packed with a tea bag — a reference to the Boston Tea Party — and addressed to the I.R.S. was placed in the mail in Royal Oak, Mich. It exploded, injuring a postal worker.

Anahad O’Connor and Jack Healy contributed reporting.
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he's as much a terrorist as timothy mcveigh.

i guess white, christian americans are no longer terrorists.

i'm waiting for sarah palin to brand him as a patriot
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Okay, so Scott Brown was on Fox News emphasizing that this guy was motivated by justifiable concerns about government socialism.

Fine, humanize him. That's the only way we can resolve the problem.

Yet I find it disgustingly hypocritical that, when it comes to Muslims committing such acts, such criminals are dehumanized. People in Guantanamo Bay, most of whom were never charged with anything and probably were in the wrong place at the wrong time, are left to rot and supposedly not deserving of even being in US prisons.

And the media lets them get away with it.

This guy was a terrorist; he flew a plane into an IRS building to kill people or at least protest the IRS through violence. You can say he's not evil and has to be understood and all, but then do that with all terrorists, including Muslims the world over committing such acts.

He also was obviously against progressivism with his attacks on that conservative President Obama and supposedly he lashed out against Michelle Obama, too. He is given kinder treatment than that poor Nigerian kid underwear bomber who was brainwashed and foolish and did a terrible thing for sure, but wasn't anymore evil.

Why can't we have an intelligent analysis of this guy's actions on CNN? These guys pop out of the woodwork every time there's a Democrat and not even liberal Democrats but corporate people like Clinton and Obama.

The hypocrisy on this stuff is really sick.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:56 PM   #4
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he's as much a terrorist as timothy mcveigh.

i guess white, christian americans are no longer terrorists.

i'm waiting for sarah palin to brand him as a patriot
Exactly. I'm shocked that Brown and others can even get away with this stuff.

I'm all for humanizing him; I'm just so upset that they're quick to not do the same in all instances of terrorism or going Columbine or whatever.
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i cautiously agree with Muldfeld on the hypocrisy thing.
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Okay, so Scott Brown was on Fox News emphasizing that this guy was motivated by justifiable concerns about government socialism.
For reals?
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The minute I saw this on my internet browser today, I knew he would not be labeled a terrorist or a martyr. He is a patriot that stood up to the evil government. He started his own revolution. God bless his solid gold American heart. Yee-haw.

Every detail about this story disgusts me.
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I think we should all oppose conservative religious maniacs with consistency.
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I think we should all oppose conservative religious maniacs with consistency.


but it's harder to torture a white person.
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he's as much a terrorist as timothy mcveigh.

i guess white, christian americans are no longer terrorists.

i'm waiting for sarah palin to brand him as a patriot


"I guess white Christian Americans are no longer terrorists?"


Please explain
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This guy flew a plane into a government agency. Why is this being called a "criminal act" and not an act of terrorism?

Three guesses as to why this might be. The first two don't count.

Guys like Scott Roeder (sp?) - same thing. People who terrorize, threaten and kill abortion providers are terrorists, plain and simple. And yet you never hear any talking heads calling them out as such.

(yes, I realize this isn't the same thing - government agency being targeted as opposed to an individual, but the hypocrisy exists in both scenarios.)
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If this guy's name was Yusuf, we'd have INDY and < > all over this thread.
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Okay, so Scott Brown was on Fox News emphasizing that this guy was motivated by justifiable concerns about government socialism.
Did Scott Brown read his manifesto? It's extremely anti-Bush.
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"I guess white Christian Americans are no longer terrorists?"


Please explain
If a minority did this, even if they were a citizen of the US, they would be called a terrorist. But if a white Christian does it, they're not.
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Okay, Scott Brown, I get it now. It's okay to try and kill a bunch of people if you're worried about America becoming too socialist.

Great. Got it. Awesome. Thanks, buddy.
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