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Old 02-19-2010, 04:45 PM   #61
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You recall how the episodes are called?

It was My Lai.
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Yeah, I had to look up "Fresh Bones", but the rest I remember; I used to pore over every detail of my episode guide. I even remember some of the dates of significant upcoming episodes because I used to mark them down in my school homework agenda. I used the internet not for porn (I didn't know you could use if for that stuff at the time) but X-Files episode info. Fox Network's constant ads about the premieres helped lodge the dates in my head, too.

Season 4 premiere: "Herrenvolk" Friday, October 4, 1996
Season 5 premiere: "Redux" Sunday November 2, 1997; "Redux II" was Nov 9 (DS9's "The Sacrifice of Angels" (very politically insightful!) aired that week, so it was the best week ever combined with a 2 weeks-long teachers' strike that ended the very next day, so that was a bummer), and "Patient X" and "The Red and the Black" were March 1st and 8th, 1998.
Season 6 premiere: "The Beginning" (of the decline of the series, if you ask me) November 8, 1998
"Two Fathers" and "One Son" aired on Feb 7th and 14th, 1999.

It's so sad that I'm proud of this crap.
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I liked X-Files very much up to some season where they started really showing UFOs and such. I always loved the vagueness and how in the end some pretty simple, rational explanation came up. But then they decided to drop this vagueness for some reason.
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If this guy's name was Yusuf, we'd have INDY and < > all over this thread.
Only if he was shouting "Allahu Akbar," was on a terror watch list or once dated singer Carly Simon.
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You recall how the episodes are called?
This is not uncommon behavior for people who have geeked out completely over TV series.
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Another world. I love series such as MASH or The Wire, but only up to a certain point.
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I liked X-Files very much up to some season where they started really showing UFOs and such. I always loved the vagueness and how in the end some pretty simple, rational explanation came up. But then they decided to drop this vagueness for some reason.
Well, there was a definite UFO from the 2nd episode, and they introduced the Bounty Hunter in Season 2, which was a great idea, I think; apparently, it was very controversial in the writers' room as to whether to admit that aliens existed.

I think the show got a lot better when it did. Season 1 and some of 2 had too much of an overly paranoid sense that the federal government was behind every conspiracy conceivable and I found it unsatisfying that I never found out a proper motivation for that; that said, I haven't watched many of those eps since the '90s and I'm more cynical about government now, so I might agree with them!
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This guy on twitter posted this link to a Salon.com blogger

Terrorism: The Most Meaningless and Manipulated Word | CommonDreams.org

Published on Friday, February 19, 2010 by Salon.com
Terrorism: The Most Meaningless and Manipulated Word
by Glenn Greenwald

Yesterday, Joseph Stack deliberately flew an airplane into a building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas, in order to advance the political grievances he outlined in a perfectly cogent suicide-manifesto. Stack's worldview contained elements of the tea party's anti-government anger along with substantial populist complaints generally associated with "the Left" (rage over bailouts, the suffering of America's poor, and the pilfering of the middle class by a corrupt economic elite and their government-servants). All of that was accompanied by an argument as to why violence was justified (indeed necessary) to protest those injustices:

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the "great" depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn't it ironic how far we've come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn't have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it's "business-as-usual" . . . . Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn't so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer.

Despite all that, The New York Times' Brian Stelter documents the deep reluctance of cable news chatterers and government officials to label the incident an act of "terrorism," even though -- as Dave Neiwert ably documents -- it perfectly fits, indeed is a classic illustration of, every official definition of that term. The issue isn't whether Stack's grievances are real or his responses just; it is that the act unquestionably comports with the official definition. But as NBC's Pete Williams said of the official insistence that this was not an act of Terrorism: there are "a couple of reasons to say that . . . One is he's an American citizen." Fox News' Megan Kelley asked Catherine Herridge about these denials: "I take it that they mean terrorism in the larger sense that most of us are used to?," to which Herridge replied: "they mean terrorism in that capital T way."

All of this underscores, yet again, that Terrorism is simultaneously the single most meaningless and most manipulated word in the American political lexicon. The term now has virtually nothing to do with the act itself and everything to do with the identity of the actor, especially his or her religious identity. It has really come to mean: "a Muslim who fights against or even expresses hostility towards the United States, Israel and their allies." That's why all of this confusion and doubt arose yesterday over whether a person who perpetrated a classic act of Terrorism should, in fact, be called a Terrorist: he's not a Muslim and isn't acting on behalf of standard Muslim grievances against the U.S. or Israel, and thus does not fit the "definition." One might concede that perhaps there's some technical sense in which term might apply to Stack, but as Fox News emphasized: it's not "terrorism in the larger sense that most of us are used to . . . terrorism in that capital T way." We all know who commits terrorism in "that capital T way," and it's not people named Joseph Stack.

Contrast the collective hesitance to call Stack a Terrorist with the extremely dubious circumstances under which that term is reflexively applied to Muslims. If a Muslim attacks a military base preparing to deploy soldiers to a war zone, that person is a Terrorist. If an American Muslim argues that violence against the U.S. (particularly when aimed at military targets) is justified due to American violence aimed at the Muslim world, that person is a Terrorist who deserves assassination. And if the U.S. military invades a Muslim country, Muslims who live in the invaded and occupied country and who fight back against the invading American army -- by attacking nothing but military targets -- are also Terrorists. Indeed, large numbers of detainees at Guantanamo were accused of being Terrorists for nothing more than attacking members of an invading foreign army in their country, including 14-year-old Mohamed Jawad, who spent many years in Guantanamo, accused (almost certainly falsely) of throwing a grenade at two American troops in Afghanistan who were part of an invading force in that country. Obviously, plots targeting civilians for death -- the 9/11 attacks and attempts to blow up civilian aircraft -- are pure terrorism, but a huge portion of the acts committed by Muslims that receive that label are not.

In sum: a Muslim who attacks military targets, including in war zones or even in their own countries that have been invaded by a foreign army, are Terrorists. A non-Muslim who flies an airplane into a government building in pursuit of a political agenda is not, or at least is not a Real Terrorist with a capital T -- not the kind who should be tortured and thrown in a cage with no charges and assassinated with no due process. Nor are Christians who stand outside abortion clinics and murder doctors and clinic workers. Nor are acts undertaken by us or our favored allies designed to kill large numbers of civilians or which will recklessly cause such deaths as a means of terrorizing the population into desired behavioral change -- the Glorious Shock and Awe campaign and the pummeling of Gaza. Except as a means for demonizing Muslims, the word is used so inconsistently and manipulatively that it is impoverished of any discernible meaning.

All of this would be an interesting though not terribly important semantic matter if not for the fact that the term Terrorist plays a central role in our political debates. It is the all-justifying term for anything the U.S. Government does. Invasions, torture, due-process-free detentions, military commissions, drone attacks, warrantless surveillance, obsessive secrecy, and even assassinations of American citizens are all justified by the claim that it's only being done to "Terrorists," who, by definition, have no rights. Even worse, one becomes a "Terrorist" not through any judicial adjudication or other formal process, but solely by virtue of the untested, unchecked say-so of the Executive Branch. The President decrees someone to be a Terrorist and that's the end of that: uncritical followers of both political parties immediately justify anything done to the person on the ground that he's a Terrorist (by which they actually mean: he's been accused of being one, though that distinction -- between presidential accusations and proof -- is not one they recognize).

If we're really going to vest virtually unlimited power in the Government to do anything it wants to people they call "Terrorists," we ought at least to have a common understanding of what the term means. But there is none. It's just become a malleable, all-justifying term to allow the U.S. Government carte blanche to do whatever it wants to Muslims it does not like or who do not like it (i.e., The Terrorists). It's really more of a hypnotic mantra than an actual word: its mere utterance causes the nation blindly to cheer on whatever is done against the Muslims who are so labeled.



UPDATE: I want to add one point: the immediate official and media reaction was to avoid, even deny, the term "terrorist" because the perpetrator of the violence wasn't Muslim. But if Stack's manifesto begins to attract serious attention, I think it's likely the term Terrorist will be decisively applied to him in order to discredit what he wrote. His message is a sharply anti-establishment and populist grievance of the type that transcends ideological and partisan divisions -- the complaints which Stack passionately voices are found as common threads in the tea party movement and among citizens on both the Left and on the Right -- and thus tend to be the type which the establishment (which benefits from high levels of partisan distractions and divisions) finds most threatening and in need of demonization. Nothing is more effective at demonizing something than slapping the Terrorist label onto it.
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Well, there was a definite UFO from the 2nd episode, and they introduced the Bounty Hunter in Season 2, which was a great idea, I think; apparently, it was very controversial in the writers' room as to whether to admit that aliens existed.

I think the show got a lot better when it did. Season 1 and some of 2 had too much of an overly paranoid sense that the federal government was behind every conspiracy conceivable and I found it unsatisfying that I never found out a proper motivation for that; that said, I haven't watched many of those eps since the '90s and I'm more cynical about government now, so I might agree with them!
That might well be, haven't watched all episodes. Well, Mulder's sister and Scully's kidnapping were pretty apparent, but still, there was always an element of openness up to a certain point.

On the other hand, it's more than ten years for me too that I've watched it.

That guy had issues. Of course his suicide note had true points, but it's never right to bring it to such an end. Very unfortunate in the end he thought it was.
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I didn't mean that to come off as saying I specifically would do it, but that I can see how people snap due to the pressures of life, how easy it is to feel trapped and to have rage drive you in your darkest times. I mean, let's look at all these school shootings or even the phrase "going postal" applied in the '80s or all these shootings among people fired.
I'm going to start making my condescending remarks toward you a little more subtle.

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Shows that have been off the air for 8 years don't need spoiler tags.

 
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Everything I know about X-Files I either learned from Muldfeld or that Simpsons parody (the latter could be applied to about 150 different subjects, including U2).
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Everything I know about X-Files I either learned from Muldfeld or that Simpsons parody (the latter could be applied to about 150 different subjects, including U2).
If you're going to talk about things you learned from The Simpsons, please spoiler it.

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Wow, this thread took a turn for the serious eh? X-Files is next on my list of shows to watch that I missed during my time without cable (once I catch up on Lost), after that it's either Wire or 4400, I'm open to recommendations.

And yes, this guy's as much a terrorist (terrist [/W]) as anyone, but it just underscores the point that I'm sure we're all aware of. One man's terrorist is often another man's freedom fighter/patriot/hero...it's all about perspective.
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