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Old 09-16-2011, 10:14 PM   #76
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I don't really care. I don't have to uniformly agree or disagree with them because I don't hold the founding fathers to be absolutely good or evil, right or wrong.

It doesn't even have to be that amendment. Again, this thread is really just about discussion. I posted that amendment at 3:30 in the morning after a night of heavy drinking. My point is that I'm really, really sick of religion creeping into places it objectively shouldn't creep into. I don't care how it gets banished. I just want us to start talking about things that actually matter. Some Republican senators' opinion on Bible interpretation is a complete and total waste of time. Let's get to the real issues.
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:34 AM   #77
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Was everyone in this thread drunk?!!??!??!
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:26 AM   #78
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Was everyone in this thread drunk?!!??!??!
It's just that posting in FYM generally only seems like a good idea whilst drunk.

(In fact, I am getting inebriated right now.)
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portion of it is chiseled in stone at the Jefferson Monument.


he also wrote this:

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I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.


i also don't think anyone should get into throwing around "Founding Fathers" (peace be upon them) quotes in the way that people have thrown around Bible quotes. firstly, because these were just other people giving us their opinion, they didn't think nearly as highly of themselves as the Right Wing now seems to, and i'm quite sure they'd be horrified at their modern day deification for the simple minded.
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Was everyone in this thread drunk?!!??!??!
At the beginning. Generally if I'm posting after 2AM on a weekend it's a safe bet.
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