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Old 10-30-2010, 11:33 AM   #1
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Honest Media?

I was thinking that a thread where people could list and make the case for honest media outlets/honest reporters that they know and follow would be helpful.
I don't doubt that it will devolve into something contentious, but it's worth a try.

I would like to recommend Engineering News-Record (ENR).
Construction, Building & Engineering News: ENR | McGraw-Hill Construction

Yes, it is primarily a construction-related magazine, but it has extensive coverage of government policy and spending due to infrastructure projects, code issues and security issues. I find their reporting to be largely factual and unbiased, and if they print an opinion, they tell you it's an opinion.



I also think that much of the reporting by Wired magazine is well done.
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:10 PM   #2
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I think Anderson Cooper is honest-I am very biased
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With all this talk about NPR being left, I have to say it's probably the most even keeled, fair news source out there.
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I try to get my news from a variety of sources and form opinions form the grand total of what I read.

NPR may count on the majority of its listeners being left-leaning, but they do an excellent examining the entire scope of an issue, from both sides, and in a non-partisan fashion.

BBC and CBC have standards of journalism I used to think were the norm in journalism, but the slide of US cable news into the shitter has made them even more important for me.

Al Jazeera English provides a good source of Middle Eastern and Asian news from a non-US / Euro-centric point of view, which is important when looking at issues of Islamophobia and immigration on the old continent (like those wacky Dutch wah hey!!!!!).
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I do listen or check into all of those ^, almost on a daily basis.

If one wants to be informed on any issue, they should avail themselves to multiple views. Some sources tend more to tailor their reporting to support an agenda.

Also, in the rush to be first, many jump on a story with unnessary conclusions. An easy example is this last plane / bomb scare out of Yemen.

A more reasonable thing to do would have been to say they need 3-4 days to investigate to see who was involved in the planning and what was the target / goal.


Surprising how many people consider Jon Stewart a good source for information.
The goal of his writers is to entertain, to get laughs. The edit out parts that do not fit in, that do not set up the joke.
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I like NPR and the BBC, obviously. I wish more people had the easy access to those that I do.


It's interesting to find industry-specific media that still have journalistic integrity. That's part of the reason I listed ENR.

The other area I like to find news articles from is the financial and raw materials sectors. No doubt that you can find heavily-opinioned pieces there, but the guy who runs Coinflation.com
Current Melt Value Of Coins - How Much Is Your Coin Worth?
puts up links to world-wide articles related to these industries. About 1 of every 4 or 5 articles he posts links to are fair and interesting and talk about shortages, inflation and different government policies and actions from around the world (especially China and India).
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Excellent idea for a thread, some worthwhile choices in here (never seen Al Jazeera news, but you're not exactly likely to see that broadcast in the heartland. If there's an online site or something, I'd be curious to check it out).

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If one wants to be informed on any issue, they should avail themselves to multiple views. Some sources tend more to tailor their reporting to support an agenda.
Indeed. I usually try and gather my news from as many sources as possible-cable news, local news, local radio and newspapers, national papers/magazines. Then I can kinda figure out from there what's worth listening to and what isn't. It allows you to see if multiple people are coming to the same conclusions, or if there's vastly different takes on the same story, and so on.

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Also, in the rush to be first, many jump on a story with unnessary conclusions. An easy example is this last plane / bomb scare out of Yemen.

A more reasonable thing to do would have been to say they need 3-4 days to investigate to see who was involved in the planning and what was the target / goal.
This is also quite true. Too many times they go ahead with the story without all the facts. I learned in school that's not how you go about doing things, it's amazing how many professional news people forget that.

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Surprising how many people consider Jon Stewart a good source for information.
The goal of his writers is to entertain, to get laughs. The edit out parts that do not fit in, that do not set up the joke.
It's a crazy situation, yeah, when comedians are taken more seriously than the professional news anchors. I personally don't "get my news" from those kinds of shows-I usually have at least some idea of the stories they cover going in. I just enjoy them because they have an interesting, entertaining way of discussing the stories. It's nice sometimes to sit there and laugh at the absurdity of everything, especially if the real news shows have you depressed and/or scared. Sometimes I do learn some new, neat facts via their shows, which is a great bonus, but that's not the sole reason I watch.

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The only news source I fully trust is Fox News and among their very talented (and brutally honest) journalists, my three favorites are Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.
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The only news source I fully trust is Fox News and among their very talented (and brutally honest) journalists, my three favorites are Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.
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The only news source I fully trust is Fox News and among their very talented (and brutally honest) journalists, my three favorites are Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.
THEY even admit that they are not journalists...
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THEY even admit that they are not journalists...
You beat me to it. They are commentators.

I guess I should have titled the thread "Honest Journalists."
Honest Media may be an oxymoron.
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i'm not sure it exists anymore... which is why i find it important not to dismiss the media outlets who lean one way or another, but rather listen to all sides and try to form my own opinion.

those who just refuse to listen to any of the fox guys already mentioned, but swear by olbermann and maddow are just as silly as those who will only listen to beck and hannity.
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You beat me to it. They are commentators.

I guess I should have titled the thread "Honest Journalists."
Honest Media may be an oxymoron.
Yes you're right - they ARE commentators - my mistake.
I sometimes get journalists and commentators mixed up.
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I sometimes get journalists and commentators mixed up.
Thanks.
This problem seems to be running rampant among certain groups... it's scary.
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Yes you're right - they ARE commentators - my mistake.
I sometimes get journalists and commentators mixed up.
Thanks.
Don't worry. I think Fox News does so, too.
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