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Old 11-02-2010, 05:50 PM   #16
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I'm sure Fox's military-industrial backers are very happy to push their pro-Israeli agenda to keep the massive $$$ in US military sales to Israel going and going and going....
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:46 PM   #17
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MSNBC has suspended prime-time host Keith Olbermann indefinitely without pay for making political contributions.

Politico reported Friday that Olbermann contributed to the campaigns of three Democratic candidates this fall, including one on the same day he appeared on Olbermann's "Countdown" program.


(actually, I never watch TV news so in truth I don't give a shit)

Now, will Fox suspend Hannity for donating to Michele Bachmann before having her on his show?
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:47 PM   #18
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Whoa.
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:51 PM   #19
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I heard this today, on Fox News Radio of all places...

It seems very weird. Does Olbermann not know he can't do this, I mean is this in his contract? If so, he's not that stupid to think no one would find out. Is he?

At least we know 2861 is doing the happy dance...
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MSNBC has a policy. Oberman violated it.

Does anyone think Fox News has a policy?
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:04 PM   #21
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Journalists give campaign cash - Politics - msnbc.com

The article is a few years old but claims Fox has no such policy.

Who knows if they do now, if so you know they'll be some that are digging up that info now.

But apparently Fox is under investigation currently for giving illegal contributions as a station as a whole...
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If both places have such policies in place, all the staff should definitely adhere to them. And Keith's involvement while being critical of others who've done such things is absolutely hypocritical and he should be called out on it and acknowledge it as such.

Though, then again, it's funny this is even an issue-corporations are people now, right? This is what happens when you allow such rulings.

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Old 11-05-2010, 03:10 PM   #23
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I was being sarcastic...I neither assumed Fox had such a policy, nor cared if they didn't. (ETA: the Hannity/Bachmann tidbit is true, though)



Should it be forbidden for journalists to make campaign contributions?
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:15 PM   #24
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MSNBC is not as obnoxiously bad as Fox, but it's getting there in this culture of the arms race of being publicly outraged and overreacting to things, and Olberman is part of the problem. Glad he's off the air.

At least Maddow is smart, assured, and her smarmy attitude as a commentator comes off as well-informed, not being a pinhead prick like K.O. or Sean Hannity or Glennnnn Beck.
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MSNBC is not as obnoxiously bad as Fox, but it's getting there in this culture of the arms race of being publicly outraged and overreacting to things, and Olberman is part of the problem.
I've watched his show before, but yes, have to agree with this.

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At least Maddow is smart, assured, and her smarmy attitude as a commentator comes off as well-informed, not being a pinhead prick like K.O. or Sean Hannity or Glennnnn Beck.
I really like her. I just find it so refreshing to see a smart woman on TV.

Should journalists make contributions? Well, if they're doing it on their own time, I really don't care, go for it if you want. But I don't think it'd be wise to do it in the context of your job if you're hoping to maintain neutrality (and if you're doing it on behalf of your workplace-well, not everyone in your workplace may support the candidates/causes you do, don't speak for them). And I'd say that regardless of what job you have.

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Should it be forbidden for journalists to make campaign contributions?
Absolutely not. But, with disclosure laws (at for us peons) journalists must consider what the effect might be on their credibility.

I find it sad AND hilarious that Olbermann contributes and is suspended.
Fox News Corp. contributes, and it's just good business.




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But I don't think it'd be wise to do it in the context of your job if you're hoping to maintain neutrality (and if you're doing it on behalf of your workplace-well, not everyone in your workplace may support the candidates/causes you do, don't speak for them). And I'd say that regardless of what job you have.
I will admit, my wife and I run a business that bears her name.
I have a different last name, so I make the political contributions, she does not.
She makes more of the donations though, as does our company.

Sneaky. Maybe. But, there are a few of our clients that may not like our political contributions.
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assuming the country is divided about 50/50

half the country disagrees with the other on some issues. probably less than 5%

because of that 5%, some act like they want to kill the other side
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I think I am going to incorporate myself so that I get my rights back.
That would make an awesome T-shirt. Maybe with the Don't Tread On Me logo or even the tried-and-true raised fist or something.
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That would make an awesome T-shirt. Maybe with the Don't Tread On Me logo or even the tried-and-true raised fist or something.
Mark, Inc. likes this idea.
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