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Old 01-20-2009, 02:43 PM   #61
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I agree but the way people are talking they expect stuff over night.
Some stuff will happen overnight - e..g suspension of Bush's executive orders.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:16 PM   #62
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The BBC must be asking the wrong Americans then. The way people hit out on the forum says enough.

I want real examples... Specifics!!!

"The way people hit out on the forum..."

Explain what you mean? I'm not familiar with the term "hit out"
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:20 PM   #63
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I say blabla about an event Obama is assoicated with and its " BOOO HIIISSs OMFg dont dare attack him... " you get the jist, im too drunk to quote.
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I im too drunk to quote.
Do you spend a majority of your time drunk?

Or only when you're trying to post intelligent things and failing?
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I say blabla about an event Obama is assoicated with and its " BOOO HIIISSs OMFg dont dare attack him... " you get the jist, im too drunk to quote.
I get your jist

it seems like some people feel every post must be rebutted or challenged?

most times, I just read and move on
and only reply when I feel the need arise

some seem to have a "take no prisoners" attitude.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:26 PM   #66
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im too drunk to quote.
That explains a lot. Because, dude? You are being kind of obnoxious. Let the folks celebrate their day, you don't need to piss on it every two minutes. I'm sure there'll be lots of opportunity for criticism later.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:26 PM   #67
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Do you spend a majority of your time drunk?

Or only when you're trying to post intelligent things and failing?
Im a British Student. Understand wordly things

Look back at anything i have said about Obama and you will understand the hit backs. Also check BBC news out for a bit, people think he's the second coming. Just because i dont lick Obama's bum people think i dislike the guy or im " right wing " im very very very liberal.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:32 PM   #68
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Im a British Student. Understand wordly things

Look back at anything i have said about Obama and you will understand the hit backs. Also check BBC news out for a bit, people think he's the second coming. Just because i dont lick Obama's bum people think i dislike the guy or im " right wing " im very very very liberal.
I'm a British student, and I don't spend all of my time drunk

I don't think people see him as the second coming - they just really, really want change and assume he'll bring it. And for the most part I think he'll deliver. I do think the world media has heaped a hell of alot of pressure onto his shoulders though and he's going to have such a hard job living up to these expectations. I feel sorry for the man. But at the end of the day, I trust him more than my Prime Minister
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I say blabla about an event Obama is assoicated with and its " BOOO HIIISSs OMFg dont dare attack him... " you get the jist, im too drunk to quote.
I honestly don't think people defending Obama = they expect things overnight.

I'm not sure where this correlation is coming from, it seems like a handful of detractors started this "they think he's the Messian and expect the world to change overnight" and then anyone who doesn't like him jumped on this boat. And now they bought into the Rush Limbaugh mentality. But then when you ask where are these people who expect this miraculous change, they can't answer you.
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I am 18 years old. I am probably one of the most cynical young people in the United States of America. Certainly, part of this is my own personality, a character flaw I need to work on and improve upon with maturity. But, in a sense, can you blame me for being cynical? I have lived in a world in which the economy has gotten worse every year since I began to have an understanding of it, where we've been at war for nearly six years for reasons that were made up by a conspiring few, where our president lacked the intelligence or the self-confidence to do what was right and instead handed his office off to the selfish and greedy. Since I was ten years old, I've watched the worst of American politics on an almost daily basis, courtesy of the Bush Administration.

What do I see in Barack Obama? First of all, I see an intelligent man. Someone who's willing to think about what the hell is going on. A person who comes to his own conclusions based on research and thought. A person who will think before he speaks and think before he acts.

Secondly, I see a liberal. I think conservative politics in the United States, for the most part, has become a parody of itself. They lack logical arguments to defend almost any of their viewpoints (abortion, gay rights), spit at anything non-religious. An alternative to that is finally here.

Those two points alone should be enough. I also see a little bit of hope, though my cynicism prevents me from believing Obama can accomplish all that much in our horrid political climate, where reaction times are extremely slow and the processes that are necessary work at speeds that are unacceptable (unless, of course, you're talking about declaring a war).

I'm not infatuated as much as I'm relieved that I can move on. Maybe four or eight years from now I won't be so cynical, courtesy of President Obama.
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Secondly, I see a liberal. I think conservative politics in the United States, for the most part, has become a parody of itself. They lack logical arguments to defend almost any of their viewpoints (abortion, gay rights), spit at anything non-religious. An alternative to that is finally here.
And this is exactly why there has to be a secular right in America; leaping on board anti-intellectual campaigns (intelligent design) with base politicians (Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee etc.) looses college educated voters; and rather than try to expand the base, by appealing to smart voters with free markets and free minds, the strategists have gone along trying to push a culture war narrative.

Change will not come, and its never going to; it isn't cynicism, it is the nature of the political system.
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I had a different image

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