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Old 01-05-2012, 07:12 PM   #1
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Helicopter Parents

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Last summer we visted a local public playground and I notice how most
of the parents were following (and helping) the children through the
playground equipment. The playground seemed very low to the ground and
padded like a cell. There was enough rubber shreddings on the ground to
sink your sneakers.

The school where I work no longer allows students to play basketball or
even walk around outside during lunch. They must stay seated at tables.
We were told this was done because of safety issues and parent concerns.

A good link on the topic:
'Safety-First' Playgrounds Linked to Bored, Inactive Kids: Study - US News and World Report
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:16 PM   #2
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Agreed. Kids today have fucking amazing Lego (insanely jealous), but their playgrounds suck, and yes, kids should fall off things and bust things and whatnot.
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Litigious parents is probably more like it, though there's some connection there.
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The school where I work no longer allows students to play basketball or
even walk around outside during lunch.
They don't allow them to play basketball at all, or just during lunch?

What age group is this?
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Phil's school lets kids play some games but they aren't allowed to keep scores.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:06 PM   #6
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Phil's school lets kids play some games but they aren't allowed to keep scores.
Yes, that also seems to be a current trend.

Loosing a game might cause a loss of self-esteem


Also at the school where I work, any student who wants to join
the football team is automatically accepted. No try outs. No one
is turned down.


press>>>play

"Not every kid made the team when they tried We got disappointed and that was all right, we turned out all right"

~From the song "It was a Different World"
as recorded by Bucky Convington
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I went to a class A high school (largest size group in our state, not sure if other states use the same system) and our football team was no-cut but I think it's because soccer was THE sport (won state champs, several always went on to play well in college). My gymnastics team was no-cut, as was swimming & diving and wrestling I think. In all cases it was because of numbers, anyone that showed up could be on the team so there wasn't a point to cut anyone, certainly not about people's feelings.
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My high school was so small the starting center on the basketball team was blind (she could see light and shadow). She was tall though, unlike all the rest of the players on the team. I swear they were the shortest kids in the school.
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I hate what the 90s "we're all special, we're all winners" shitty parenting has turned youth into today.

Contributing factors also include grade inflation and the false promise of jobs for all those pushed into crushing college debt for useless social science degrees in lieu of vocational training.

Hopefully the post-college, recessionary job sinkhole will humble everyone a bit as they pack garbage cans more efficiently at Taco Bell with a big flat metal thing.

Not sure why anyone would reasonably take on 40K debt for anything other than a STEM degree these days.
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Overprotective parents contribute to frustrated teens that grow up with a sense of insecurity, lack of trust, and a weak set of basic social skills. As these kids age, they realize how badly shaped they are due to their parents' overprotection, some notice it very early in life while others do until it's very late, talking past the age range of 30-40.

In summary, protection can always be welcomed as well as freedom, there has to exist a balance between both.
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Contributing factors also include grade inflation and the false promise of jobs for all those pushed into crushing college debt for useless social science degrees in lieu of vocational training.
I thought you were an economics major that didn't want to work for the government?

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Hopefully the post-college, recessionary job sinkhole will humble everyone a bit as they pack garbage cans more efficiently at Taco Bell with a big flat metal thing.

Not sure why anyone would reasonably take on 40K debt for anything other than a STEM degree these days.
My family doctor was born in New York, graduated from high school nearby Long Island, and then moved to Mexico to pursue an undergraduate degree on a pre-med track all the way through medical school until he got his M.D.

The medical school where he attended was bilingual, as soon as he graduated, he moved back to the US to start his residency and three years later after it was complete, he was already an internist with his own office; he did all of it in his native language, abroad, and paid a little less than $30K for the complete package.

I personally congratulated him for beating up the system, he didn't even take the MCAT's, nor paid thousands of dollars of nothing for nothing. And yet, he's widely known and recommended around the local area, lives on a $1M home, and drives a Porsche Panamera.
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I think America is the only place that medicine is seen as a vocation that should provide a very high income.
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not at all, it's just one of the places that doesn't seem to think that income should be remotely representative of effort and training put in.
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What I see with Phil's students (elementary) and our students (college) is that they lack coping skills. They think they are so much more advanced and mature than previous generations yet they act like babies when told "no" or something bad happens to them. Fifth graders bring weapons to school but then when they are caught and reprimanded they scream and throw a fit like a baby.

I've had parents chew us out because we won't provide them with their son or daughter's password, because our online portal contains confidential information like health records. I want to scream into the phone, "Your kid is 18, cut the cord!" Even with the kids who don't like the helicoptering and are quite fine working things out on their own, the parents are still going at it. They come to our info fair tables and in the background the kid is rolling his eyes acting embarrassed by his mother while she is rambling on and on to us about this or that. Two summers ago my aunt had an issue with a parent who threatened to pull all his kids out of her school because one of his daughters did not get her choice of three best friends in the same classroom. I see parents doing everything for their adult children sort of actually dressing them. It's just so weird and kind of gross, really...
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I thought you were an economics major that didn't want to work for the government?
Banks, banks, banks. Plus I might be going out on a limb here, but I think I am taking a wee bit more calculus and statistics than my friends in Sociology.

Should have gone for a STEM degree, in retrospect.
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