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Old 09-03-2010, 11:32 PM   #46
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I guess they mean people who drink, but dont get drunk
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:29 PM   #47
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I guess they mean people who drink, but dont get drunk

Yes, some people can be moderate drinkers.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:47 PM   #48
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That's the post you respond to?

Everyone knows that.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:51 PM   #49
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That's the post you respond to?

Everyone knows that.

Sorry, just an American idiot
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:56 PM   #50
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That's not what I'm saying, I'm just curious as to why you ignore all the evidence and questions asked of you about smoking, but then tell us something that no one was implying?
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:30 PM   #51
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New York City Council Bans Smoking In Public Parks, Stretches Of BeachCBS New York

NEW YORK (CBS NewYork) — Smokers have just one message for Mayor Michael Bloomberg and City Council members: butt out of our business.

“We’re outside. We should have freedom to smoke,” City Hall Park smoker Harvey Forbes told CBS 2’s Magee Hickey.

By a vote of 36 to 11 on Wednesday the City Council approved a bill to ban smoking in all city parks, beaches and pedestrian plazas.

“People who have made the decision not to smoke have civil liberties too and their health and their lives should not be negatively impacted because other people have decided to smoke,” Council Speaker Christine Quinn said.

Council members who voted against the ban said they see it as an invasion of individual rights.

“We have this crazy idea that we can change the way people behave. You can’t have salt, you can’t have sugar. Hop on a bicycle because it’s bad to drive your car. It’s ridiculous. What’s next?” said minority whip Eric Ulrich, adding when asked if New York City is becoming a police state, “I think so. It’s a slippery slope.”

The law takes effect 90 days after Mayor Bloomberg signs it. Quinn said she was “very glad” that New York was becoming “a public health city.”

The smoking ban will cover some 1,700 parks and 14 miles of public beaches plus boardwalks, marinas and pedestrian plazas.

Quinn said in addition to beaches and parks becoming free of secondhand smoke, there would also be less cigarette butts littering beaches.
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Does this mean more New York people on Jersey beaches? GODDAMMIT.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:32 PM   #53
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“We have this crazy idea that we can change the way people behave. You can’t have salt, you can’t have sugar. Hop on a bicycle because it’s bad to drive your car. It’s ridiculous. What’s next?” said minority whip Eric Ulrich, adding when asked if New York City is becoming a police state, “I think so. It’s a slippery slope."
omfg, talk about an overreaction.
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...when asked if New York City is becoming a police state, “I think so. It’s a slippery slope.”
Talk about bad timing.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:36 PM   #55
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The ill effects of tobacco/nicotine are largely an invention of Al Gore, liberal scientists, and the MSM.

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Old 02-03-2011, 03:46 PM   #56
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They're not going to be able to enforce this ban very well. I doubt it will cut down on smoking in these places all that much.

Forgive me, I've never spent a great deal of time in New York City, but Central Park is fucking huge, correct? People are still going to be able to get their smoke on. What, are they going to have some sort of "Cigarette Watchman" hiding on every corner and behind every bush at these parks, waiting to tell somebody to put out their smoke, or give them a ticket? This won't phase the cigarette smokers of New York. At least the ones that are smart.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:37 PM   #57
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There's an outside smoking ban in a couple of cities near me, which frankly I think is pretty ridiculous. It means you cant even stand outside your house on the sidewalk and smoke a cigarette. I'm sure the cops have better things to do than to cite people for smoking a cigarette.. OUTSIDE. I can understand a smoking ban in small parks for kids (there are signs at all my local parks that say no smoking and that's fine with me) or heavy populated public areas, but a huge park like Central Park or say Golden Gate park in San Fran, that's a little extreme.
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Yeah, agreed, not sure how that's going to work.

I do like how the smokers are freaking out, though. I mean, if you want to smoke in a public place, whatever, I won't stop you, but honestly, oh, my god, so you can't light up for a few minutes. YOU'LL LIVE (literally and figuratively). Sheesh, people.

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Well it largely has to do with self-policing. There aren't scores of city/municipal workers sitting around in parks ticketing people who don't pick up their dog's shit but generally in a civilized world, most people who are responsible dog owners will just comply. There is also an element of shame involved from the public who sees you walking away having left a deposit.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:11 PM   #60
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There is also an element of shame involved from the public who sees you walking away having left a deposit.
Less so when your dog leaves it
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