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Old 04-08-2009, 09:42 AM   #16
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:49 PM   #17
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any girls/women here smoked a cigar or a pipe?
My friends got me a pack of cigars for my 18th. Wasn't too taken with them, seeing as I don't smoke anyway I looked bloody cool though.
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Old 09-24-2009, 05:47 PM   #18
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FDA bans cigarettes with fruit, candy or clove flavors -- latimes.com
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Old 09-24-2009, 05:50 PM   #19
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I smoked cloves for a very breif time in college...

I had no clue they had candy flavored or fruit flavored cigarettes.
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Old 08-27-2010, 04:46 PM   #20
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In March 2006, then 37 year-old Deborah Scott turned to the Internet to memorialize the loss of both of her parents to cigarette smoking. In closing she wrote, "I never want my children to have to go through what I went through." Sadly, Deborah is now living her worst nightmare, as one year later she received her own diagnosis of lung cancer.
I'm Deborah and Smoking has Smoked this Body
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:31 PM   #22
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I frequent the beaches around here often and am glad most have banned smoking. I don't think there's really burn hazard for kids but IMO it's just plain annoying and rude, especially since the smokers have a way of getting there well after you've set up and then sitting so that their smoke blows away from them at you, not to mention I don't think I've ever seen them pick up after themselves.
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:25 PM   #23
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I don't know.

I only smoke about two or three Lucky Strikes a month.

I field strip them after a smoke.


I did not realize that the smoking minority were littering the beaches.

Field strip those fags!!!!!
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:34 PM   #24
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Two cigarettes a month?? You're not even a "real" smoker, so I can't understand your pro-smoking advocacy.

Some of my friends smoke the occasional cigar and they wouldn't consider themselves smokers.
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:55 PM   #25
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I am real smoker. I smoke Lucky Strikes nonfilter.

I am not a pro-smoking advocate.

My rant is about this nonsense propaganda that nicotine is as addictive as heroin and helpless addicts need to spend $$$$ to break the addiction or they need to be helpless in their habit.

I have friends who fought against heroin and crack cocaine addiction.


I will wait for your comment and others before a reply.
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:17 PM   #26
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Smoking a pack a year, to me, means you are not a smoker.

Nicotine absolutely and completely is as addictive as heroin. This is scientifically proven. Just because you didn't become addicted, doesn't mean it is not addictive.

I am glad to hear your friends got clean, but because they developed heroin and crack cocaine addictions doesn't imply that nicotine is not as addictive as heroin. There are, believe it or not, casual heroin users. They are rare but they exist. I have an acquaintance who has used pretty much everything, including h., but never became addicted to the h. (He did with the cocaine, however.)
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[QUOTE=financeguy;6914981]Smoking a pack a year, to me, means you are not a smoker.

Nicotine absolutely and completely is as addictive as heroin. This is scientifically proven. Just because you didn't become addicted, doesn't mean it is not addictive.




"Nicotine absolutely and completely is as addictive as heroin. This is scientifically proven.


I disagree. By what science? Have read this in a paper or something?

Do you think the anti-tobacco advocates spew propaganda?


Should most baby boomers be dead now from second hand smoke because when they were growing up smoking was allowed almost everywhere?
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I love reading a sentence like "I disagree" in response to science.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:08 PM   #29
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I disagree. By what science? Have read this in a paper or something?
May 16, 1988: Nicotine Declared As Addictive as Heroin, Cocaine


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Do you think the anti-tobacco advocates spew propaganda?
Of course. Theirs generally has better scientific backing, however.

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Should most baby boomers be dead now from second hand smoke because when they were growing up smoking was allowed almost everywhere?
No. No-one said that. What is scientifically proven is that, for a non-smoker, living in close proximity to a smoker over a long period of time increases the risk of certain forms of cancer by a massive 35%. Ok, it's 35% of a small risk, but still.

Did you read the article in the link I posted above?

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Old 08-27-2010, 09:19 PM   #30
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May 16, 1988: Nicotine Declared As Addictive as Heroin, Cocaine




Of course. Theirs generally has better scientific backing, however.



No. No-one said that. What is scientifically proven is that, for a non-smoker, living in close proximity to a smoker over a long period of time increases the risk of certain forms of cancer by a massive 35%. Ok, it's 35% of a small risk, but still.

Did you read the article in the link I posted above?

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My grandfather died at the age of 87.

His twin brother died at the age of 107.


Both of them used tobacco in moderation.


What I am trying to say here is that whatever we do, we should do in moderation.
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