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Old 02-17-2009, 02:30 PM   #16
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mr brown is "one-eyed Scottish idiot". He declared the end of 'boom and bust' economic cycles by encouraging the biggest debt-fuelled bubble in history.
Yeah, not funny. And the fact that Jeremy Clarkson said it actually makes me want to like Gordon Brown. I like more than that racist, anyway
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Factually correct, but I agree he shouldn't have said it. Didn't he apologise and then retract to just calling him an idiot.

Same still applies though...he can't take credit for economic transformation (or boom as it turns out) and blame the rest of the globe for the bust.
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:47 PM   #18
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I just think saying something like that is counterproductive to your whole argument - I agree, Gordon Brown has done a lot wrong (although I wouldn't blame our current economic crisis completely on him...) but to say that, well, that makes him the victim. Detracts from the argument. Eclipse all his faults with his race. Nope, not a fan of bloody Clarkson and it doesn't matter that he said sorry - everyone is in total adoration of him, no one thinks what he said was wrong.

I just really hate that man.
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Fair enough.

But I would still apportion more blame at the door of Brown. He came in as Chancellor with recovery from a minor recession well established, and has been at the helm ever since. My objection to him is that he takes us into this recession ill-prepared. He didn't save for a rainy day, mastered off balance sheet borrowings (through PFIs) to such a level that even astonishes the audit firms, and oversaw the FSA fail spectacularly in responding to regulate the CDOs and MBSs that fuelled the banking binge.
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Labour's time is up

I wont vote labour again - i have seen to many undeserving people get handouts
Its time for some discipline and moral values to be returned to society

Even though my city is a working class city, i can see the Tories doing well
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Its time for some discipline and moral values to be returned to society
Bloody hell, you have actually posted something sensible for a change

Society these days is almost feral
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:45 PM   #23
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Quote, the Tories. Oh dear madforit, it seems your argument's quite the contradiction.
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Fair enough.

But I would still apportion more blame at the door of Brown. He came in as Chancellor with recovery from a minor recession well established, and has been at the helm ever since. My objection to him is that he takes us into this recession ill-prepared. He didn't save for a rainy day, mastered off balance sheet borrowings (through PFIs) to such a level that even astonishes the audit firms, and oversaw the FSA fail spectacularly in responding to regulate the CDOs and MBSs that fuelled the banking binge.
I completely agree with this; while I don't believe he can be blamed for inducing the recession (this is a world issue and goes far deeper than mere British banks), more should have been done - more should be being done. I still maintain that a lot of this has to do with Thatchers deregulation of practically everything in the public domain she could get her hands on... yes, Labour should have remedied this misdemeanours, and they didn't.
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I thought Mrs Thatcher was great.
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I thought Mrs Thatcher was great.
Why am I not surprised by this, financeguy?
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I thought Mrs Thatcher was great.
Me too She had more balls than any subsiquent male leaders since

AND she was ALL for the UK not who can come here and get something for nowt
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AND she was ALL for the UK not who can come here and get something for nowt
Like those dastardly miners, huh?
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Stuff the miners
how dare they hold the PM to ransom
she was 100% right
No one messes with Maggie, just ask Bobby Sands!

also Partygirl - why is my argument the contradiction?
I'm not saying where i live but until 1997 my constituency was Tory for 40 odd years
I can see the blue flag being restored soon
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Stuff the miners
how dare they hold the PM to ransom
she was 100% right
No one messes with Maggie, just ask Bobby Sands!

also Partygirl - why is my argument the contradiction?
I'm not saying where i live but until 1997 my constituency was Tory for 40 odd years
I can see the blue flag being restored soon
You fight for the improvement of society, and you support a party which denies society even exists.
You want "better rights for hard working people" and then you say "stuff the miners."
You say that no one messes with Maggie, then you say "how dare they hold the PM to ransom." Do you really think they had the capacity?

You're a bag of contradictions, madforit, and it's quite hard to take when you're spouting ignorance. At least try and sound as though you know what you're talking about.
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