GOP Nominee 2012 - Pt. 5

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"No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know this is the place I was born." --Mitt Romney, 8/24/12

And so Romney empowers (and shamelessly panders to) the birther craze, while at the same time being able to deny that he's ever questioned Obama's citizenship. Classy.
 
Yeah, that was harsh FG. You ripped away someone's identity and told them how they see themselves as invalid.

Its like when some immigrants laugh at me when I tell them I'm an American. They say there's no such thing as an American, except for the Native Americans. :mad: Nothing can piss me off more because its like they're ripping my skin off and dehumanizing me.

So let MrsS see herself as Irish. Its part of her identity and no one has a right to take it away.
 
Yeah, that was harsh FG. You ripped away someone's identity and told them how they see themselves as invalid.

Its like when some immigrants laugh at me when I tell them I'm an American. They say there's no such thing as an American, except for the Native Americans. :mad: Nothing can piss me off more because its like they're ripping my skin off and dehumanizing me.

So let MrsS see herself as Irish. Its part of her identity and no one has a right to take it away.


jesus, i re-read those exchanges, and I don't see anyone being personally attacked at all



there are valid points about how native peoples were treated, and robbed of everything, if anyone said something like that to me I would tell them they have valid points

as for skin being ripped off, the only time anything like that ever happened to me was when i was a little baby, and it was other so-called Americans that did that to me. (without my permission)



(nm - I'll let FG give an explanation if he wants; no need for me to jump in with assumptions)

too bad you edited
like I wrote above, I don't see what the fuss is about
 
I don't think everyone really needs to weigh in on it, I appreciate the supportive posts though. I think for me it's taken in a context, and that's really all I want to say. I think I have the right to do that :shrug: It was a random friendly post to another person that had nothing to do with him or the thread, and it's like bam-blindsided. Out of nowhere and really not necessary, in my opinion. From now on I'll keep all friendly random comments to myself here, or to PMs. Cause I guess you never know what it can get you.
 
deep said:
jesus, i re-read those exchanges, and I don't see anyone being personally attacked at all

there are valid points about how native peoples were treated, and robbed of everything, if anyone said something like that to me I would tell them they have valid points

as for skin being ripped off, the only time anything like that ever happened to me was when i was a little baby, and it was other so-called Americans that did that to me. (without my permission)

Deep, you may not agree that anything harsh happened, but I do not think it was necessary for you to mock my post. That's how it came across to me.

MrsS, continue to be yourself. Don't let one bad exchange stop you. :) :hug:
 
This is about culture, not gender. I get why it grates on you to hear an American identify herself as "Irish," and I also get why she's bewildered that it grates on you.

I remember a huuuuge Interference flame war on this exact topic several years back (with different posters). Seen a couple real-life confrontations over it too...
 
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A male also said he was Irish and no comment was made whatsoever questioning that. Maybe that bewilders me. Not about gender ..not personal.


I'm actually not bewildered and I'd appreciate it if it was dropped.
 
A male also said he was Irish and no comment was made whatsoever questioning that. Maybe that bewilders me. Not about gender ..not personal.

If you're referring to me... well, I'm only half Irish. But I think this is somewhat just a misunderstanding. In the US, between Americans, statements like "I'm Irish" mean "I'm ethnically Irish", generally. In Europe, "I'm Irish" means something more along the lines of "I have citizenship of Ireland". The former doesn't necessarily carry connotations of strong connections to present day Ireland; the latter does.
 
"I will set a national goal of America and North America -- North American energy independence by 2020," Romney pledged. "That means we produce all the energy we use in North America. And there are a number of things I'm going to do to make that happen. It is achievable. This is not some pie in the sky kind of thing. This is a real, achievable objective."

Nice plan by Romney. All the "we" in that statement = Americans.
 
Nice plan by Romney. All the "we" in that statement = Americans.

I heard an interview, he wants to include Mexico and Canada for a true North American alliance. Most of the refiners are in the U S. So that would be good for American companies and North American consumers.
 
I would like to see the team of experts that have told him this is actually possible. I've read a lot of experts say that this isn't even physically possible, let alone in 7 years?
 
Energy policy to the left of the fracker-in-chief Obama - and the leftiebots on here will line up to villify it.

Hilarious. :D
 
They just need to buy one of the catchy Bob Dole slogans*
like

Fire up and ready to go!!!

or Drill, baby, drill !!



* those were both leftovers from Dole's Viagra campaign.
 
I heard an interview, he wants to include Mexico and Canada for a true North American alliance. Most of the refiners are in the U S. So that would be good for American companies and North American consumers.

Look a bit into this and how much money Canadians are losing because the US refineries are paying about 15-20% below market price for unrefined oil.

Why do you think that even the right in Canada isn't particularly upset about the Keystone decision? Because they know that Canada is getting hosed right now. Frankly if Canada didn't have to dig under the Rockies to Kitimat (very expensive, very difficult), it would probably rather deal with the Chinese who, if nothing else, pay a fair price.
 
TAMPA—Republican officials on Saturday cancelled most of Monday’s planned opening of the Republican National Convention, bowing to concerns about the safety of delegates who were to gather as the tropical storm Isaac barreled into the area.

The plan, announced in a conference call, was to formally gavel the convention open, then recess until Tuesday.

maybe they should let the ones that are not afraid of the rain show up.

because when you are president and it rains, somebody has to be in charge.
 
Lindsay Graham summarizes the current state of the GOP quite well:

“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
 
I see a huge opportunity for the GOP, it is kind of simple.

After the election, just pull a Reagan and let some immigration legislation through, then go after the hard working social conservative Latino vote, if they move that demographic from 25 % to 35% or more, they could win a lot more elections.
 
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