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Old 08-12-2012, 02:59 AM   #61
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You can see why many don't take you seriously right? You don't even seem to understand the platforms for which you're cheering for...
What?
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You can see why many don't take you seriously right? You don't even seem to understand the platforms for which you're cheering for...
Could you resist making this personal?
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Paul Ryan is Romney's attack dog, and will make Mitt seem more conservative. He's not boring like Pawlenty, he's young, and has definite appeal to certain voters. I think it's a brilliant choice
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Could you resist making this personal?
Could we be consistent when calling someone out on getting personal? There's a poster who has had free reign in name calling and personal attacks as of late.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:00 PM   #65
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Paul Ryan is Romney's attack dog, and will make Mitt seem more conservative. He's not boring like Pawlenty, he's young, and has definite appeal to certain voters. I think it's a brilliant choice
Sarah Palin had many of these qualities too. He may energize the base, but won't do a lot to sway undecided voters. He works in an institution with a 16% approval rating.
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I exempt you from that comment. I think your posts display a humility and willingness to challenge and be challenged that is mostly lacking in the contributions from the other left wing posters on here. Age may not necessarily bring wisdom!
Well, thanks for the nice words. But I dunno, I think everyone, or at least, most everyone, has their own moments like that on here, too.

So. Paul Ryan's the VP pick, eh?

Woooooo. *Twirls finger unenthusiastically*
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I think Ryan will help Romney immensely, up until somebody gets him to open his mouth about his abortion views during the debates and he loses the vote of every female voter in the country not named Ann Coulter.
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he hates the gays, too.

just so we all know.
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Well... Romney wasn't getting any of the gay vote regardless... repressed closeted anti gay bigots aside.
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mittens used to love us.

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Yes he did. He was for gay people before he was against them. Just like virtually every other position he's had pre and during MA vs post MA. Nebulous. He's a shape shifter with helmet hair.
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And nice shirts.
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Yeah, what about those social conditions?

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Catholic Newspaper Calls Obama ‘More Pro-Life’ Than Romney
Erin Gloria Ryan

Now that he's picked a running mate who basically believes that fetuses should run things, Mitt Romney seems to have his "pro-life" cred sewn up. After all, he's against abortion, his friends are against abortion, and his new bromantic partner is super extra against it. And that should bring all the religious anti-abortion folk to the yard. But not so fast, Mittens — at least one Catholic newspaper isn't buying it.

Nicholas P. Cafardi at the National Catholic Reporter argues that while President Obama is in favor of supporting a woman's right to choose, he doesn't support social conditions that can lead women to feel compelled to choose abortion. He writes,

There is no doubt Obama is pro-choice. He has said so many times. There is also no doubt Romney is running on what he calls a pro-life platform. But any honest analysis of the facts shows the situation is much more complicated than that.

For example, Obama's Affordable Care Act does not pay for abortions. In Massachusetts, Romney's health care law does. Obama favors, and included in the Affordable Care Act, $250 million of support for vulnerable pregnant women and alternatives to abortion. This support will make abortions much less likely, since most abortions are economic. Romney, on the other hand, has endorsed Wisconsin Republican Paul Ryan's budget, which will cut hundreds of millions of dollars out of the federal plans that support poor women. The undoubted effect: The number of abortions in the United States will increase. On these facts, Obama is much more pro-life than Romney.

Uh oh. Sense talk ahead.

Cafardi's right, of course — thinking you can reduce the number of abortions by making abortion illegal and then making life extra crappy for women so they'd be more likely to want to have abortions is sort of like a pitcher walking all of the batters in baseball so none of them hit home runs and then acting all confused when the score keeps increasing. Sure, some abortions will always be matters of "convenience" or "lifestyle," two reasons for terminating a pregnancy often sneered at by the anti-abortion rights set, but many of those "convenience" abortions occur because it's not very "convenient" when you're a single woman trying to live on a minimum wage income and you're not getting any help from anyone.

Further, argues Cafardi, while Obama advocates for legal abortions for women who choose them, he's never profited from abortion. And Mitt Romney has. Kind of a lot. In fact, while Mitt Romney was actively involved with Bain, the firm purchased Stericycle, a company that disposes of aborted fetal remains. In its early years, Bain was financed by money from people who were tied to Central American death squads. Romney made Monopoly Man Doffing His Top Hat amounts of money from these transactions. Hardly "pro-life," that.

So, if you're pro-choice or pro-life, it seems that one candidate is the clear choice. What does that make the other guy?
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Some teenage girls started a petition on change.org to make this happen. Rather pathetic that they even had to do that. These guys can talk about all of these women's issues and try to get votes by using those issues, but we haven't had a female moderator in 20 freaking years.

A woman is to moderate a US general election presidential debate for the first time in 20 years.

Candy Crowley of CNN has been named as one of three top broadcasters to oversee the three presidential debates between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in October.

In addition, Martha Raddatz of ABC News will moderate the vice-presidential debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan.
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