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Old 09-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #451
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Mitt Romney should stop making daily comments on
every "whiff ball" that passes home plate.

He should take some time to think before he speaks.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:23 PM   #452
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Mitt Romney should stop making daily comments on
every "whiff ball" that passes home plate.

He should take some time to think before he speaks.

I know. Can you imagine how he'd be with a garden variety foreign crisis? I bet he'd fabricated intelligence to justify the invasion of a random country.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:34 PM   #453
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Yeah, it doesn't give you too much confidence in him as President
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He'll be back even if he loses. I think you can count on that. Third time's the charm?
I'm trying to remain optimistic here, MrsS, why you gotta bring me down like that ?

Seriously, though, I suspect you're right, unfortunately. If at first you don't succeed, blah, blah, blah...

Agree fully with the stuff Pearl quoted, too. Spot on critique. I just tend to get a deeply mean, cold, uncaring streak from the Republican Party and its platform in general, it's been that way for some time now and it's getting worse, I think. Even ideas that might feasibly work are, as noted, seen more in a business sense than a, "how can this actually help people" sense. There may still be a few good moderate souls in that party, but for the most part it's moved so far to the right and it's so out of touch and downright offensive in many of its views. The party needs a serious overhaul, but will that happen anytime soon? I doubt it.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:50 AM   #455
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You Built That: How Mitt Romney Shook Down American Taxpayers For His Welfare Olympics

Donald L. Barlett & James B. Steele

It's been called Mitt Romney's "golden moment"—the time he took over the troubled Salt Lake City Winter Olympics and led them to respectability on the world stage in 2002.

His boosters say that Romney's stewardship of the U.S. Olympics show that he would be a fine president because of the way he managed a vast international enterprise with a huge budget.

What they don't talk about is how Romney and his Salt Lake buddies raised the money to finance the games. They took a page from the playbook of Bain Capital and other private equity funds, using an approach popular with the moneymen known as OPM—other people's money. Never put up your own cash if you can find someone else to do it for you.

For the Salt Lake games they found the biggest sugar daddy around: the federal government.

Many records were set at the 2002 Winter Games, but chances are that one will never be broken. That's the amount of federal dollars that Romney and his crew siphoned out of the federal treasury to help pay for the Olympic games: $1.5 billion. That was more than the federal government had spent on all seven Olympic Games held in the U.S. since 1904—combined. In inflation-adjusted dollars.

We discovered this during a yearlong investigation to find out who was paying for the Olympics and who in Utah would benefit from the games.

With the help of Utah's congressional delegation, Romney's Salt Lake Olympic committee pried federal dollars out of more than three dozen agencies on an unprecedented scale: $500 million for highways, bridges, roads and interchanges; $30 million for parking lots; $25 million for buses; $11 million for infectious-disease monitoring, food inspection, and medical response; $2 million to house the media; $1 million for a weather forecasting system; and several hundred thousand dollars to plant new trees in and around Salt Lake City—to name only a few of the goodies.

Romney himself lobbied Congress for a $12.7 million handout to cover the overtime pay of local police during the games. In defending the request for federal dollars, Romney said: "This is one last piece of the public-safety puzzle. You can't have the complete chain if you take out a couple of links."

No matter how you look at it, the strategy that Romney and the Olympic committee employed so effectively in Salt Lake City to underwrite the games is completely at odds with the image that he and his running mate Paul Ryan are now trying to project as stalwarts of a frugal government that disavows subsidies and expects people to stand on their own.

Their philosophy appears to depend upon where you happen to be standing.

When Romney headed the Winter Olympics, it was OK for Salt Lake City, with a metro area population of 1.6 million, to extract a $325 million subsidy from the federal government for its light rail transit system. But presidential candidate Romney now has a different view of transportation subsidies. He says he wants to end all federal appropriations for Amtrak, which serves 30 million American rail passengers a year.

The Utah Olympics provide yet another window into what a Romney presidency might mean. In addition to securing large outlays from Washington, the Salt Lake City committee helped wealthy developers and resort owners make the most of the opportunity afforded by the Olympic games.

One assist went to a multi-million-dollar ski resort owner, Earl Holding, that helped him exchange land he owned in remote Utah for a choice piece of federal property adjoining his ski resort. It was said this was necessary to make his downhill property more Olympic-ready, but his resort would reap the benefit long after the games ended.

When we found out about this, we decided to take a look what taxpayers had received in exchange for the land in the Salt Lake City area that had once belonged to them. The drive took us a couple of hours north out of Salt Lake City to a remote area bordering Idaho. There we made an interesting discovery. Some of the parcels were so isolated that no road led into them. So in exchange for beautiful land accessible to most Salt Lakers, American taxpayers wound up with out-of-the-way tracts of land whose only visitors would be wild animals.

When we asked Romney in 2001 how he could justify the record flow of federal dollars to one community to stage the Olympics, he accused us of writing a "ridiculous" article and said, "Do you realize this is just an absurd bogus approach?"

But you have to wonder: If the Olympics were being held in Salt Lake City today, would Romney ask the city to pull itself up by its bootstraps and forgo the federal funds? Or does he secretly believe that the federal government has an important role to play in financing infrastructure and keeping the trains running?

Whatever Romney actually believes, he's taken hypocrisy on the campaign trail to new heights by touting his work as Olympics CEO while at the same time denigrating the institution—the federal government—that he relied upon for financial support to make the games a success.

Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele are one of the most widely acclaimed investigative reporting teams in American journalism. They have worked together for more than three decades, first at The Philadelphia Inquirer (1971-1997), where they won two Pulitzer Prizes and scores of other national journalism awards, then at Time magazine (1997-2006), where they earned two National Magazine Awards, becoming the first journalists in history to win both the Pulitzer Prize for newspaper work and its magazine equivalent for magazine reporting, and now at Vanity Fair as contributing editors. They also have written seven books. Their most recent is The Betrayal of the American Dream, which is available on Amazon.
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Poll: Romney Ahead in Presidential Race, Say Replacement Refs : The New Yorker
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The new talking points are that the polls are all, (except for Rasmussen) skewed and that Romney really is ahead.

As for Romney coming back, that's tough. It's one thing to lose the primary and comeback, but losing the general election? I don't think he'll be back. Unless there are major skeletons in closets, you're looking at Chris Christie and Marco Rubio.
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WESTERVILLE, Ohio -- In a line that event attendees found a bit puzzling, Mitt Romney warned a crowd of mostly middle-class onlookers on Wednesday not to expect too much tax relief under his administration.

"We have got to reform our tax system," Romney said at a morning event here. "Small businesses most typically pay taxes at the individual tax rate. And so our individual income taxes are the ones I want to reform. Make them simpler. I want to bring the rates down. By the way, don't be expecting a huge cut in taxes because I'm also going to lower deductions and exemptions. But by bringing rates down we will be able to let small businesses keep more of their money so they can hire more people."

The comments were either a flub on Romney's part or an admission that many of the deductions and exemptions that he will have to target in order to make his tax plan deficit neutral will end up affecting the middle class.
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hmmm ...

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Obama Mulls Competing for Arizona
President Obama's campaign is considering competing in Arizona, the AP reports.

"Obama looked at competing in Arizona in 2008, but decided against it because of the support there for home state Sen. John McCain, the GOP nominee. Obama still won 45 percent of the vote."

"This year, Obama's team talked early on about running in Arizona, which offers 11 electoral votes, but it never did. Now, with an internal Democratic poll showing Obama narrowly leading Romney, Obama's team might make a play for the state that has seen a 160,000 increase in voter registrations by Democratic-leaning Hispanics over the past four years."

Obama Mulls Competing for Arizona
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:35 PM   #460
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I don't think most of the recent campaign 'missteps' by Romney are as much about being a Romney blunder or him coming apart at the seams - as it is simply the philosophy he's trying to sell to people that have NO business voting for him. They (Republican establishment) all believe that shit. Romney has just been telling people what they believe.
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Joe Scarborough Reacts To Romney-Ryan Chant: 'Sweet Jesus' - YouTube

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Apparently the polls are biased too, guys. It's part of how the lamestream media is conspiring for Obama to win.
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some things to think about

Obama only began to pull ahead after his convention, the highlight of that convention was Bill Clinton's speech, also Clinton has been out in front and center ever since

So Romney is really competing against two, is that really fair, why doesn't Clinton just stay out of it? Is two on one really fair? Is that the American way.
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Obama only began to pull ahead after his convention, the highlight of that convention was Bill Clinton's speech, also Clinton has been out in front and center ever since
Hillary 2016.
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some things to think about

Obama only began to pull ahead after his convention, the highlight of that convention was Bill Clinton's speech, also Clinton has been out in front and center ever since

So Romney is really competing against two, is that really fair, why doesn't Clinton just stay out of it? Is two on one really fair? Is that the American way.
You're absolutely right. Presidential candidates should run their campaigns without any support or endorsement from high-ranking party members, past presidents especially.
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