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Old 09-23-2012, 05:39 PM   #421
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If someone could explain how either party has ever really mounted an attempt at voter suppression, I'd love to hear it.
The article in the post directly above yours is pretty clear about the matter. If it's not suppression, it's at the very least discouragement of specific voting demographics.
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Old 09-23-2012, 05:42 PM   #422
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If someone could explain how either party has ever really mounted an attempt at voter suppression, I'd love to hear it.
Seriously? It might not be on a coordinated national level (but then again, it may be), but at the state level the republican party has been very active in trying to suppress the vote. I'm on my phone so I don't have time to look up all the links, but search for Ohio early voting changes (or attempts to), Pennsylvania's voter ID laws (that one prominent state Republican actually said would deliver the state to Romney), Florida, South Carolina, Texas, etc. And these aren't just random scared tactics like mailers saying you can't vote if... - these are actual attempts by Republicans to pass voting laws that would primarily affect sections of the population that historically vote Democrat.
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If someone could explain how either party has ever really mounted an attempt at voter suppression, I'd love to hear it.
The article right above your post already mentions some of the initiatives currently taken by Republican parties in several states to suppress groups from voting. That article might be a bit strident, but the facts are correct.

For all the latest on what's going on with regard to election laws (not just voter supression, but all kinds of activities) in the USA, there's this excellent blog. Election Law Blog | Rick Hasen's blog
The blogger is a professor in election law, so he's quite knowledgeable.

This is an interesting article also mentioned somewhere on that Election Law Blog:
The Ballot Cops - Mariah Blake - The Atlantic
It talks about efforts by Republican Parties (and organizations affiliated with Republican Parties) to 'observe' voting in specific areas, but that many of those efforts also result in intimidation.

This op-ed contains a good suggestion from someone who has experienced some of the irregularities from up close. It's time for a nonpartisan elections official - Houston Chronicle
I think that something like that is needed in the USA, as you apparently can't trust someone actively affiliated with a party. Or at least, to take away the suggestion that someone's decisions might be motivated by a specific party.
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Good to see democracy is still alive and kicking.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:37 PM   #425
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Romney said the uninsured can just go to an emergency room. Seriously. He said that.

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“Well, we do provide care for people who don’t have insurance,” Romney told interviewer Scott Pelley. “If someone has a heart attack, they don’t sit in their apartment and — and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care.”
There are so many things wrong with that I don't even know where to start. First, he realizes it costs more to treat people when they are emergent than to get people preventative care right? I mean, really.

Of course, after they are released from the emergency room, there is follow up care necessary which if you are uninsured, you won't be able to afford.

Romney: Uninsured have emergency rooms
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:13 PM   #426
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Yeah, and how come in submarines they don't have doors you can open to let some water in if you want to like, wash your hands?!
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I am sure the GOP will call this map wishful thinking


Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

but, if NC is now the only toss-up state, then Romney will go down in history as one of the least competent candidates ever.
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This is about the time that McCain went off the deep end in 2008, so he's right on cue.
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Romney really just needs to stop talking. God willing he'll go away after he loses in November.
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Romney said the uninsured can just go to an emergency room. Seriously. He said that.



There are so many things wrong with that I don't even know where to start. First, he realizes it costs more to treat people when they are emergent than to get people preventative care right? I mean, really.

Of course, after they are released from the emergency room, there is follow up care necessary which if you are uninsured, you won't be able to afford.

Romney: Uninsured have emergency rooms
So he is now in support of universal health care... just done in its stupidest, least effective, and most expensive form?

Also, that HuffPost map is glorious, but... very optimistic.
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Well that's what I get for clicking last post instead of new posts.

Not really having a good day on interference today.
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