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Old 09-16-2010, 10:06 PM   #16
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Buzz word and the the sheep will follow?

So, I'm falling right in line?

Who are the blind sheep here?

I guess it's me or is it?

I don't know, I'm just the stupid libertarian:wave
IH, if you're not a blind sheep, prove it. Make a credible case for the growing reach of the all-intrusive federal government.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:28 PM   #17
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IH, if you're not a blind sheep, prove it. Make a credible case for the growing reach of the all-intrusive federal government.


OK, here's one (just for fries)

Next, Michelle Obama's health reform plan for the nation's restaurant menus and families dining out | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:42 PM   #18
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With all due respect, perhaps I wasn't clear enough:

A CREDIBLE case please.

An snarky opinion column with an unflattering picture of Michelle Obama? You'll have to do better than that.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:49 PM   #19
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With all due respect, perhaps I wasn't clear enough:

A CREDIBLE case please.

An snarky opinion column with an unflattering picture of Michelle Obama? You'll have to do better than that.

Snarky?

I have to do better?

Did you actually read the article?

Please quote from the article and state why you agree the federal government should be Big Brother (The Food Police)
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You don't get that that's an opinion column with an agenda?

You don't seem to like real news with facts.

Tell maycocksean how the food police has stopped you from eating what you want.

Please inform us.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:20 PM   #21
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You don't get that that's an opinion column with an agenda?

You don't seem to like real news with facts.

Tell maycocksean how the food police has stopped you from eating what you want.

Please inform us.

Please post quotes from the link that prove your point.

And maycocksean,

The federal government has banned butter, whole milk, and limited salt in public schools lunches.

The result the past twenty years:
More obesity.

It's not the food stupid!
(sorry, just taking a President Clinton phrase)
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:22 PM   #22
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Snarky?

I have to do better?

Did you actually read the article?

Please quote from the article and state why you agree the federal government should be Big Brother (The Food Police)

I did read the article, and yes it was snarky. Let me ask, did you read the full text of Michelle Obama's speech. Perhaps you could quote from her speech and show were she is advocating that the federal government should be the Food Police. Because from my reading all I'm gathering is that she's encouraging a group of private business owners to make healthier meals a higher priority. It sounds mainly like "raising awareness" to me. She's about a government takeover of our dietary choices as Laura Bush was about a big-government mandate that all children be forced to learn to read.
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Please post quotes from the link that prove your point.

And maycocksean,

The federal government has banned butter, whole milk, and limited salt in public schools lunches.

The result the past twenty years:
More obesity.

It's not the food stupid!
(sorry, just taking a President Clinton phrase)
You're a school teacher, when your student presents you with a paper that states that the nazis were right and that pumpkins are purple do you accept it when the student says "well show me where in my paper I was wrong"?

The federal government has banned butter, milk, and limited salt in public school lunches?

Please show me this? Who? Where?

Is this what being libertarian is about?
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:10 AM   #24
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My thoughts on her victory were not about her, but about the principles of less big government, more liberty that she say she supports.
And you honest to God think she will follow that belief? You truly believe that?

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If she's like me, she is far from perfect and flawed.
Imperfect and flawed isn't a bad thing in and of itself, that's fine. I don't expect any politician to be perfect. Which is why I get irritated when they act like they are, and it seems to me that that's how she's trying to present herself.

I'm sorry, I don't see how or why you can support someone who feels the need to go around presuming and making rumors about other people's sexuality, who feels the need to make something so private her business. That is NOT supporting more liberty and less government. Not even close. And the rumor mill she likes to go on is just mean-spirited. I don't want a mean-spirited person running any aspect of government. We have way too many of those kinds of people in our government now, that's why we're having difficulty getting anything good done.

From the article about her:

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"You know what got me? She's down to Earth. She's on the street. She's been there,"
Aren't we done with the "they're just like us, they're down to earth" thing yet? Of course I want a leader who will genuinely understand what people such as myself are going through, but I'm sorry, they have to have some sort of exceptional quality to be a leader, some special ability that makes them stand out. We tried the whole, "Someone who we could have a beer with" idea. Remember how well that turned out?

From what I've heard about her, I can't relate to her. The fact that she beat out a conservative who can claim this:

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is very sad to me. Sure, there's other issues I noticed with the link about Castle that I would disagree with him on, namely the Iraq war, it seems, but there are areas where I could agree with him, too. Don't we want that? Don't we need that? Sean hit the nail on the head here, I could not agree with you more .

On a much lighter note, in relation to O'Donnell, I absolutely loved this bit from Stephen Colbert's show last night-how he managed to keep an overall straight face during this, I do not know:

Libertea - The Colbert Report - 9/15/10 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

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Buzz word and the the sheep will follow?

So, I'm falling right in line?

Who are the blind sheep here?

I guess it's me or is it?

I don't know, I'm just the stupid libertarian:wave
If you just take someone who says "libertarian" as being a libertarian at face value without actually studying her views, then you are falling in line.
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I'm impressed that IH has returned and engaged in something like a dialogue about something he posted.
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Democrat Chris Coons has a sizable lead over Republican Christine O'Donnell in the Delaware Senate race, according to the results of a Rasmussen Reports poll released on Thursday, with the news likely to add to GOP concerns about O'Donnell's viability in the general election after her upset primary win.
The poll showed that 53 percent of likely Delaware voters said they would vote for Coons compared to the 42 percent that said they would for O'Donnell. Another 4 percent are undecided and 1 percent prefer another candidate.

Only an 11 point lead?

Coons should just conceed right now.
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O'Donnell is pretty hot, though.
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Even Karl Rove called her a nut...

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