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Old 12-15-2010, 04:21 PM   #196
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Rarely do you see a politician quite this honest: Last Wednesday, just hours after securing the position of chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Spencer Bachus, R-AL, told the Birmingham News that "in Washington, the view is that the banks are to be regulated, and my view is that Washington and the regulators are there to serve the banks."


Open mouth, insert foot (then take it out and try to trip up any meaningful reform of the financial sector).

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Bachus' quote rocketed around the lefty blogosphere, and on Monday night the 62-year-old Congressman earned a coveted "Worst Person in the World" award from Keith Olbermann on MSNBC's "Countdown."


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Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., is set to assume the chairmanship of the House Homeland Security Committee in January, and today comes the news that he intends to launch an investigation of "radicalization" among American Muslims. In some perverse sense, King, who has represented part of Long Island in Congress since 1993, may be just the man for the job: He spent years openly supporting the terrorist Irish Republican Army.

The journalist Alex Massie has ably documented King's history with the IRA, a group that he did not break with until 2005:
In the 1980s, he was a prominent fundraiser for Noraid, the Irish-American organization that raised money for the IRA and was suspected of running guns to Ulster, too. Indeed, King's rise to prominence within the Irish-American movement was predicated upon his support for the IRA at a time when New Yorkers were softer on terrorism than they are now. Noraid helped win King his seat in Congress, making him, in some respects, the terrorists' Man in Washington. ...

In 1982 he told a pro-IRA rally in Nassau County, New York, that "We must pledge ourselves to support those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry." That same year, an IRA bomb killed eight people in London's Hyde Park. Two years later, the IRA almost succeeded in murdering the British prime minister.
If "IRA" were replaced with "Hamas," the sort of fundraising King did would these days earn you a lengthy prison sentence for material support for terrorism. Ironically, King has since emerged as the member of Congress perhaps most willing to toss around the "terrorism" label; he recently called for the designation to be extended to WikiLeaks. A few years ago, he also made the ludicrous claim that "80-85% of mosques in this country are controlled by Islamic fundamentalists." After Sept. 11, he floated the idea of using "tactical nuclear weapons" in Afghanistan.

In another literary twist in the tale, when King did finally break with the IRA in 2005, it was over his frustration with the lack of Irish support for the American invasions of two Muslim countries, Iraq and Afghanistan. King's fear of Muslim terrorism had finally overwhelmed his support for Irish terrorism.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:57 PM   #198
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he intends to launch an investigation of "radicalization" among American Muslims. In some perverse sense, King, who has represented part of Long Island in Congress since 1993, may be just the man for the job: He spent years openly supporting the terrorist Irish Republican Army.
Oooooooookay...

He's been representing that area since 1993? My question is, how the hell is he constantly getting re-elected with this information being common knowledge? I'm almost hoping it's as simple as him buying his way into re-election, 'cause I can't fathom why anyone would willingly support somebody who favored the IRA. Unless their fear of Muslims is as extreme as his.

Idiot. I hope if he does go forward with this mad investigation people fight back, and hard.

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Old 12-17-2010, 08:07 PM   #199
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When I lived in NYC (which was in the late 80s, before he was elected to Congress), I remember hearing that Nassau County and especially its 'Paddy' police force were hotbeds of IRA support. Ethnic tribalism is rampant in NYC though, so that allegation should be taken with a prudent grain of salt--i.e. could therefore easily be true, but could also therefore easily be anti-Irish rumor-mongering.
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When I lived in NYC (which was in the late 80s, before he was elected to Congress), I remember hearing that Nassau County and especially its 'Paddy' police force were hotbeds of IRA support. Ethnic tribalism is rampant in NYC though, so that allegation should be taken with a prudent grain of salt--i.e. could therefore easily be true, but could also therefore easily be anti-Irish rumor-mongering.
I'd find it quite credible, frankly. Ironically King and the type of Irish-Americans that vote for him tend to be right wing but Sinn Fein's politics were far left back then, though they have modified a lot of their policies since.

I wonder about the internal conflict of a guy who is a long term prominent member of a party as right wing as the US Republicans while giving succour to people who wanted to create a 32 country socialist republic back in the old sod. It's not as though the party kept this aspect of their policies hidden, it was right up at the front of their constitution.
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^ I wonder if it's in part secondary to a kind of subconscious contempt/shame towards the IRA's nonviolent brethren who (so they imagine) "rolled over and accepted" English domination. Not unlike similarly contradictory attitudes that were/somewhat still are commonly held by and about Jews...for example, you've probably read about the latest Nixon tapes release? On the one hand, he was filled with this intense contempt for the simpering, shrill, devious Commie Jews we have here in America, yet at the same time he slobbered all over Golda and her tough, macho, ass-kicking tribe, who were, in fact...socialists, really idealistic ones even, with the kibbutzim and all that. Likewise, you know, drunkenly-lilting-orange-freckled-guy-singing-'Danny-Boy' stereotypes--not tough, not macho, but a sniper with a Kalashnikov and a black ski mask...oh yeah, baby. I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but so many Jews of my parents' generation through to boomer age really do have complexes like this on some level, so it kinda makes sense to me that some Irish-Americans still would too. When you emigrate under a cloud of humiliation and fear (not just poverty) like that, it can stay with you and haunt you in your new identity, even as the folks back home are oddly enough getting over it and moving on. And people who have certain 'conservative' leanings--specifically in the authoritarian, 'tradition'-hallowing, strongman-worshipping sense of the term--they're usually the types most vulnerable to this.
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Lame-as-F@#k Congress - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 12/13/10 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

Why the Republican "leadership" isn't getting torn a new one over this is beyond me.
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I LOVED that. Especially the ending, with the song and calling them out BY NAME.

Did you or anyone else catch his show on Thursday night? Holy crap, it was intense.

Watch. Listen. Be moved. And incredibly pissed off. It's one of the best episodes this show's ever done, quite honestly:

December 16, 2010 - Mike Huckabee - The Daily Show With Jon Stewart - Full Episode Video | Comedy Central

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Any thoughts on this, GOP supporters?
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Huckabee completely missed Stewart's last point.

Huckabee says that he blames the Democrats for making it a political issue. Stewart retorts that he blames the Democrats for not making it a political issue when the bill should be a political win for everybody. Huckabee says he agrees with that?

What an ass.
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Not to mention, the Republicans are making this a political issue, too. They're the ones who exploited the hell out of 9/11 for 9 years, and now they're refusing to support this until they get their way on the tax stuff and whatever other crap they want. That's not politicizing the issue?

Yeah, I somehow have the feeling if more people knew about this story, any popularity the Republicans are currently enjoying would suddenly drop like a stone. There are some issues you just do not, pardon my language, dick around with.

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The Republican Party has completely lost the plot. They are immoral, from top to bottom, behave in shameless ways on a daily basis and their co-opting of 9/11 has been disgusting.

This doesn't mean that the Democrats are anything to write home about - they are pathetic.

But the Republicans are a group that belongs in a century many centuries ago.
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The Republican Party has completely lost the plot. They are immoral, from top to bottom, behave in shameless ways on a daily basis and their co-opting of 9/11 has been disgusting.

This doesn't mean that the Democrats are anything to write home about - they are pathetic.

But the Republicans are a group that belongs in a century many centuries ago.
I would have said this six years ago for sure, are they really still that bad?
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In my eyes, they sure are. I'd say they keep getting progressively worse, too. Whenever I hear a moderate Republican speak nowadays, or read about one somewhere, I actually feel like doing a celebratory dance, it's seemingly so rare to find.

The 9/11 stuff was one of the biggest reasons that I got so turned off to them. Add in the war stuff, Iraq especially, and the push of some for things like constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage, and it was "Bye, bye" for me .

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The Republican Party has completely lost the plot. They are immoral, from top to bottom, behave in shameless ways on a daily basis and their co-opting of 9/11 has been disgusting.

This doesn't mean that the Democrats are anything to write home about - they are pathetic.

But the Republicans are a group that belongs in a century many centuries ago.
If your being objective, you'll find a lot of continuity between the Republican party over the past decade with those from the 90s and 80s as well as a lot of similar views with many Democrats. The vote for the Iraq war was probably one of the strongest bipartisan votes in history. Even a majority of Democrats in the Senate voted for it.

Compare that with the vote for the 1st Gulf War in 1991 when the vast majority of the Democrats opposed the war, and some Democratic congressman even tried to take legal action against George Bush Sr.
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