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Old 10-21-2010, 09:01 AM   #136
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there was still a HUGE void not being attended to with the current system.
No doubt. The question is, what's the most effective way to fill that void without bankrupting -- or significantly overburdening -- the federal government. Higher taxes are a possible solution -- I find it amusing when Americans complain about being overtaxed, given the tax situation in Europe, and as a result I wouldn't have a problem paying more taxes to offset the cost of my grandmother's health care -- but at the same time, I have no confidence that health care companies will keep costs at anything close to a reasonable level, or be interested in fair practices. Moonlit_Angel's comment about the public option being merely an option is fine, until you consider the fact that, in the race for a more profitable bottom line, companies are considering ditching their health care plans -- or their employees -- altogether.

McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers - USATODAY.com

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"The big political issue here is the president promised no one would lose the coverage they've got," says Robert Laszewski, chief executive officer of consulting company Health Policy and Strategy Associates. "Here we are a month before the election, and these companies represent 1 million people who would lose the coverage they've got."
Again, a real and sustainable solution for government to insure quality of medical care for its citizens still seems a way off.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:24 AM   #137
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Again, a real and sustainable solution for government to insure quality of medical care for its citizens still seems a way off.
Any reform was going to take awhile. This plan will evolve and change over time. People know(at least most thinking people) that the current system is screwed up, but it they really knew how bad of a cluster it really was they'd be shocked.

Those that opposed reform in anyway were delusional.

Those that opposed government reform for savings accounts and the like were detached from reality.

It's something that should have been done in small steps towards, rather than big steps and then later taking small steps back. But with a blind opposition this would have never happened, this was the only way it would have worked.
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Old 10-22-2010, 04:57 PM   #138
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Republican congressional candidate says violent overthrow of government is 'on the table'

12:00 AM CDT on Friday, October 22, 2010

By MELANIE MASON / The Dallas Morning News
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WASHINGTON – Republican congressional candidate Stephen Broden stunned his party Thursday, saying he would not rule out violent overthrow of the government if elections did not produce a change in leadership.

In a rambling exchange during a TV interview, Broden, a South Dallas pastor, said a violent uprising "is not the first option," but it is "on the table." That drew a quick denunciation from the head of the Dallas County GOP, who called the remarks "inappropriate."

Broden, a first-time candidate, is challenging veteran incumbent Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Dallas' heavily Democratic 30th Congressional District. Johnson's campaign declined to comment on Broden.

In the interview, Brad Watson, political reporter for WFAA-TV (Channel 8), asked Broden about a tea party event last year in Fort Worth in which he described the nation's government as tyrannical.

"We have a constitutional remedy," Broden said then. "And the Framers say if that don't work, revolution."

Watson asked if his definition of revolution included violent overthrow of the government. In a prolonged back-and-forth, Broden at first declined to explicitly address insurrection, saying the first way to deal with a repressive government is to "alter it or abolish it."

"If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary," Broden said, adding the nation was founded on a violent revolt against Britain's King George III.

Watson asked if violence would be in option in 2010, under the current government.

"The option is on the table. I don't think that we should remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms," Broden said, without elaborating. "However, it is not the first option."

We all know when the first (Boston) Tea Party patriots did not get the satisfaction they were looking for.

The next step was 'armed revolution'. "God inspired revolution', no less.
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:02 PM   #139
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True colors start to shine...
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This guy is in your state.

If you want to save the Union
you better vote straight GOP and tell your friends to do the same.
Think of the children!
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Don't remind me.

Already voted, and it wasn't a straight ticket...
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:27 PM   #142
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did you vote for a Libertarian?
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No but this race had a libertarian poll higher than any election since 1992.

His peak... 8%
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Already voted, and it wasn't a straight ticket...
Then the gay agenda has won.
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I'm a scared to watch those clips. Maybe for Halloween

The Page by Mark Halperin | O’Donnell: Campaign is Spiritual “Calling”
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How will she reconcile her spiritual calling with her small government platform?

Is it possible to do both?
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:32 PM   #148
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Is this woman lying or what?

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U.S. Rep. Cynthia Lummis says some of her Wyoming constituents are so worried about the reinstatement of federal estate taxes that they plan to discontinue dialysis and other life-extending medical treatments so they can die before Dec. 31.
Lummis, a Republican who holds her state's lone seat in the House, declined to name any of the people who have made the comments.
But she said many ranchers and farmers in the state would rather pass along their businesses -- "their life's work" -- to their children and grandchildren than see the federal government take a large chunk.
"If you have spent your whole life building a ranch, and you wanted to pass your estate on to your children, and you were 88 years old and on dialysis, and the only thing that was keeping you alive was that dialysis, you might make that same decision," Lummis told reporters.
Wyoming Rep. Lummis: Estate tax rise has some planning death
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Her constituents have nothing to complain about; they already are over-represented in Congress.

Wyoming-- 1 Rep. per approx. 545,000 people
Montana-- 1 Rep. per approx. 975,000 people

But hey, if some of them want to kill themselves, fine. Maybe, we can change it so Wyoming only gets a half a Representative in Congress.

(That's just me airing my representation disparity again.)
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I don't know is some people are planning their deaths or not.
Perhaps some heirs are crossing their fingers.


But it is true, that there is no estate tax this year, 2010.

The Bush Tax cuts in 2001, brought it down from a high of 55% to zero this year, 2010.

Those tax cuts expire on 12/31/2010.

Therefore dying on 1/1/2011 could cost some heirs quite a lot.
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