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Old 12-13-2010, 09:03 AM   #31
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you don't think i'm that thick that i'm surprised that "love sees no colour" do you?
I don't know, you seemed very perplexed in that thread.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:14 AM   #32
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I don't care if this is racist. It's tasty as fuck. I grew up on that shit.

Perhaps if we disguised everything that is offensive and racist in a sweet, sugary coating and poured it on pancakes, the world would be a better place.
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ummm... yes?
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:34 PM   #34
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Demographics and numbers aside, why even be suprised that love sees no color?
Are people more likely to fall in love with someone of a similar cultural background, or a different one? And, realistically, isn't race tied up with cultural background, for many people?

Granted, this is perhaps less of a factor in the US, which is a nation founded by immigrants and where there is probably more shared culture among different races than in most societies.
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Are people more likely to fall in love with someone of a similar cultural background, or a different one? And, realistically, isn't race tied up with cultural background, for many people?
I don't know, everyone's different, and this would really depend on many other factors as well.


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Granted, this is perhaps less of a factor in the US, which is a nation founded by immigrants and where there is probably more shared culture among different races than in most societies.
And this was part of my point in that particular thread. But his line of thinking was "it seemed like a high number for a country with such a huge population", which I found even more perplexing.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:09 PM   #36
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The golliwog, just like blackface, is no longer socially acceptable.

Fuck, I call black people 'black', and am generally pretty tired of forced political correctness, and I realize that these things are based on cartoonish parodies of black features and are pretty bad news.

Australia has its own bad, very bad history towards darker-coloured folks, so it's kind of surprising that there is any kind of argument in favour of the shopkeeper.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:48 PM   #37
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Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious that the basic premise here is "A black person is coming. Quick, hide all our racist shit"?
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^ Well, yes and no...yes in that it's pretty pathetic that this is what it takes to get them to (temporarily) remove a Golliwog from display; no in the sense that it was Oprah's "handlers" who asked them to remove it, and it was apparently only this particular one (the mammy doll) that they asked them to remove, not their other Golliwogs. For all we know, it may be that they were set aside because Oprah might want to buy them; I've read before that she collects racist memorabilia (much as, for instance, some Jews who are in a financial position to do so collect anti-Semitic memorabilia, for the historical value).
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Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious that the basic premise here is "A black person is coming. Quick, hide all our racist shit"?
wait until you see what they've hidden under uluru.
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I have to admit that I find an unfortunately anachronistic merchandise item among the least interesting or annoying things about Oprah's progress through the colonies.
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at least we've got real final confirmation that russell crowe is indeed an australian.
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The golliwog, just like blackface, is no longer socially acceptable.

Fuck, I call black people 'black', and am generally pretty tired of forced political correctness, and I realize that these things are based on cartoonish parodies of black features and are pretty bad news.

Australia has its own bad, very bad history towards darker-coloured folks, so it's kind of surprising that there is any kind of argument in favour of the shopkeeper.
can't argue with this. i guess i'll just leave it with cori's comment, just because one person doesn't find something offensive doesn't mean another person won't.

i've got to admit though, it really takes quite a bit to offend me. i can't think of anything of the top of my head that has offended me in the past few years (outside of personal taunts, etc, obviously).
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not getting at you cobl, but some things go beyond causing offence to someone personally, and are offensive due to the offense caused to others... if that makes sense...
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yeah i hear you. which is exactly what this thread has told me.
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