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Old 01-29-2010, 07:18 PM   #271
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corporations are people, but suspected terrorists are not.
Sorry, but that's pretty lame.
The recent Supreme Court decision had no effect on law regarding foreign corporations, and the civil liberties granted by the Constitution do not extend beyond citizenship or our borders.
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Sorry, but that's pretty lame.
The recent Supreme Court decision had no effect on law regarding foreign corporations, and the civil liberties granted by the Constitution do not extend beyond citizenship or our borders.
So we just beat the shit out of anybody we want and throw them in jail if they're not an American citizen?
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So we just beat the shit out of anybody we want and throw them in jail if they're not an American citizen?
No, we subject a serious and lengthy interrogation to an A.Q. trained terrorist caught red-handed.
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No, we subject a serious and lengthy interrogation to an A.Q. trained terrorist caught red-handed.
How often is the arrest "red-handed" and obvious?
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How would any of us know? Frankly I quite trust our miltary.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:26 PM   #276
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How often is the arrest "red-handed" and obvious?
Ummm, this one?

Would you treat the next airplane bomber we catch the same way as Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab?

I'm wondering what the discussion would be here if the plane had gone down and hundreds had died.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:54 PM   #277
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So we just beat the shit out of anybody we want and throw them in jail if they're not an American citizen?
Wow, you certainly have a high regard for our military, the FBI, CIA, local law enforcement agencies and the overseeing umbrella of all three branches of government.
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How would any of us know? Frankly I quite trust our miltary.
Um, according to many conservatives the military just allowed a terrorist within their own ranks... remember?
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Why do you refuse to recognize the difference between unlawful enemy combatants and common felons
Once again your consistency fails miserably...

You preach status quo, how new interpretations are evil, 'progressive' is a bad word... yet you sure put a lot of faith in a term that just got a legal definition in 2006... Seriously man, you're becoming a transparent hack for your (tea) party.
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Wow, you certainly have a high regard for our military, the FBI, CIA, local law enforcement agencies and the overseeing umbrella of all three branches of government.
No, I'm trying to make a point: the point being, where do we draw the line? You seem to want to employ lawlessness by our military for any non-American. Or is that not the case? If that's not the case, where are we drawing the line?

It's not like every terrorist is going to be obvious. And it's not like every Muslim is going to be a terrorist. So, what can we do other than prosecute them the way prosecute others?
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Um, according to many conservatives the military just allowed a terrorist within their own ranks... remember?
Doesn't mean I don't trust our Military anymore.
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Doesn't mean I don't trust our Military anymore.


the previous administration didn't trust our military -- they authorized torture because, clearly, those conducting the questioning were unable to get acceptable answers quickly enough to justify the Iraq War.

anyway, it's too depressing to continue to have torture discussions.

just continue to watch "24" and pretend it all goes down like that.
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the previous administration didn't trust our military -- they authorized torture because, clearly, those conducting the questioning were unable to get acceptable answers quickly enough to justify the Iraq War.
So what does that have to do with our military being in charge of those captured in Afghanistan and Iraq?

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just continue to watch "24" and pretend it all goes down like that.
Didn't realize so many libs watch 24.
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I find it worrying that so many trust the military but not the elected civilian government that it answers to (in both instances as a matter of principle). That is not a healthy sign for the future.
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I find it worrying that so many trust the military but not the elected civilian government that it answers to (in both instances as a matter of principle). That is not a healthy sign for the future.


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