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Old 08-28-2011, 05:02 PM   #496
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First, let me apologize for lumping you in with the knee-jerk Beckaphobes who reflexively mock his every deed and utterance. You may not like him but you have an informed opinion. So sorry 'bout that, it won't happen again.

I'm not here as a Beck apologist. Since leaving Fox I have no idea what he has been up to. I found his show interesting and funny but often frustrating. He would announce a big project every 6 weeks or so only to quickly move on to the next big project, the previous one all but forgotten.

I can also name several predictions and dire warnings that were WAY off base. Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state by secret vote anyone?

Anyway, what I thought he did best (and pissed off his enemies the most) was to point out the revolutionary radicalism in so much of the Left's ideology. Many American Democrats are ignorant of this or don't want to think about it but it is undeniable. And this is worldwide over the past 60 years. Main examples being student revolts. The labor movement. Romanticizing communism. Much of the environmental movement. And now sympathy towards to Islamism. With plenty of jaw dropping video clips to illustrate.

This also is the subject of books like: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left , Liberal Fascism, The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America and After America: Get Ready for Armageddon

The revolutionary goal; to destabilize the West and capitalism. The coming insurrection Beck called it.

You either see it all around you (London, Middle East, US losses AAA rating) or you laugh at it I guess.

So, I'll just respond to a couple of points specifically since you took the time to explain your thoughts.

Maybe, but could have to do with the looming U.N. vote on Palestinian statehood. An issue that may well split some Western alliances.

As discussed on a thread sometime ago, issues surrounding Israel are upside down in many ways. I have no idea how it became as politicized as taxes, spending or illegal immigration are. What I don't do is discount those that deny the Holocaust or Israel's right to exist. And I pay close attention to whom they associate with.
Sorry but with these McCarthyesque ramblings I cannot take you seriously as a poster any more.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:13 PM   #497
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Q: What is the problem with people being together in commune, eating together, and have everything in common, having sold property and possessions to give anyone who had need?
Like the Manson family?
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Oh yeah, another off base prediction was when Beck said there would be rape and pillaging.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:58 PM   #499
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Sorry but with these McCarthyesque ramblings I cannot take you seriously as a poster any more.
What I didn't say was that this was the biggest threat to the Western world. That would be that the populace has figured out they can vote goodies for themselves, bill future generations, and few people seem inclined at this point to tell them "no."

But as debt mounts, economic growth slows and society destabilizes at the same time Western principles and values atrophy; well it makes you wonder what "fringe" ideas, ballyhooed by the "useful idiots," might seem more enticing in desperate times.

You may well not see marxism alive and well on college campuses or in Black Liberation theology. Or think the Islamification of Europe might have dire consequences down the road. Or that global warming is speculative, politically-polluted science with even more dubious solutions that, strangely, always require sacrificing some of our economic prosperity and personal freedom.

That's fine. I don't look under my bed before turning off the light for the vague, mysterious, omnipotent "Oligarchy" as you must.
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you really do write in sweeping -- nay, epic -- generalizations, don't you?
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Q: What is the problem with people being together in commune, eating together, and have everything in common, having sold property and possessions to give anyone who had need?
You communist pig! How dare you preach equality!

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Sorry but with these McCarthyesque ramblings I cannot take you seriously as a poster any more.
I don't think many did to begin with.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:27 AM   #502
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Q: What is the problem with people being together in commune, eating together, and have everything in common, having sold property and possessions to give anyone who had need?
Like the Manson family?
Um... the latter half of my question was quoted from Acts 2:44, 45 (NIV).

Now, excuse me; I'm gonna go into my time machine and tell Luke and Peter that they had it wrong all along.
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Um... the latter half of my question was quoted from Acts 2:44, 45 (NIV).
These parts have been removed from the tea party version of the Bible.

This poster touts the Bible but hasn't been able to recognize many of its teachings before, touts Reagan but has believed the revision over the truth, and touts conservatism but really embraces the right wing paranoia of the talking heads. How much of it's true, hard to tell, but in here he's turned into the person that calls the man that said Irene is a blessing "far from crazy or uninformed".
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I'm offended, BVS, that you referred me as "this poster" ... surely, you're not talking about me, are you?

Fix the grammar, will ya?

You got a misdirecting referent pronoun.
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I'm offended, BVS, that you referred me as "this poster" ... surely, you're not talking about me, are you?

Fix the grammar, will ya?

You got a misdirecting referent pronoun.


Did you ever refer to Glenn Beck as being "far from crazy or uninformed"?
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:51 AM   #506
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WTF?

You're seriously referring to me, and not Indy?

No.. I never referred to Glenn Beck "far from crazy or uninformed"... not as far as I remember.

Besides, I don't participate in FYM arguments much. Usually I make nonsequiturs.

This is fishy, AFAIC.
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From search on my posts with the word "Glenn Beck", here are the results i get:

Glenn Beck Has A Dream

Glenn Beck Has A Dream

Spiderman News - Part 2

Today in Wisconsin students rise up and protest!

Glenn Beck Has A Dream
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So WTF?
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I'm pro-Krugman and pro-Olbermann, how much proof do you need?

Hello?... I feel like I deserve an apology.
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This is what you were referring to:

Glenn Beck Has A Dream

And I don't think I was a part of the conversation back then.

smh.
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