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Old 01-11-2010, 06:52 PM   #136
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That would sting if I actually liked Keith Olbermann. I may agree with his political leanings, but he's no more of a journalist than the gang over at FOX. He's an entertainer and a douche-y one at that, just like Glenn.
I can't entirely agree with the last part. I'm not necessarily saying Keith is an out-and-out journalist, but I think Keith comes across as more intelligent, more fact-conscious, and more professional than Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or even Bill O'Reilly. I mean, how often does Keith get caught in lies or intentional manipulations of the truth, and how often do they other guys? How often do people say Keith is crazy or nuts or whatever, and how often do people say that about Glenn or Rush? Keith comes off, to me at least, as having some dignity and some respect for the truth, and I can't say the same for the other names I mentioned.
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That would sting if I actually liked Keith Olbermann. I may agree with his political leanings, but he's no more of a journalist than the gang over at FOX. He's an entertainer and a douche-y one at that, just like Glenn.
I've said the same thing on here numerous times, and yet the myth that we're all on the Olbermann bandwagon persists.
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Does anybody even watch MSNBC?

It's just the weirdest channel - 8 hours of news, and then a bunch of shows about life in prison.
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I can't entirely agree with the last part. I'm not necessarily saying Keith is an out-and-out journalist, but I think Keith comes across as more intelligent, more fact-conscious, and more professional than Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or even Bill O'Reilly. I mean, how often does Keith get caught in lies or intentional manipulations of the truth, and how often do they other guys? How often do people say Keith is crazy or nuts or whatever, and how often do people say that about Glenn or Rush? Keith comes off, to me at least, as having some dignity and some respect for the truth, and I can't say the same for the other names I mentioned.
But he resorts to the same immature antics and exaggerations that those guys do. O'Reilly and Olbermann are mirror images of one another.
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It's just the weirdest channel - 8 hours of news, and then a bunch of shows about life in prison.



I can't stand Keith Olbermann-he's pompous and obnoxious. I used to watch MSNBC only because Dan Abrams was on there

But MSNBC is just as bad as FOX-plus it's not in HD on my cable
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CNN is by far the most reasonable and moderate of the news channels. MSNBC and Fox are both very partisan.
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That would sting if I actually liked Keith Olbermann. I may agree with his political leanings, but he's no more of a journalist than the gang over at FOX. He's an entertainer and a douche-y one at that, just like Glenn.
Agreed.
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More Beck hypocrisy?

What if it's Beck with a tax 'accident'? - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:26 PM   #144
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I've said the same thing on here numerous times, and yet the myth that we're all on the Olbermann bandwagon persists.
It just proves how many on the Right are on the Beck/Hannity/O'Reilly/Coulter/Limbaugh/Malkin/Ingraham etc. fan list. These people have about as much political insight as my cat, but they're worshipped by the GOP. It's the reason their party has no direction.
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I liked Keith Olbermann back when he was one of the few people in the media calling out the Bush administration on its b.s., but now I find him tiresome. Rachel Maddow is much funnier and far less pompous.
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Rachel Maddow is much funnier and far less pompous.
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Cable News Ratings for Monday, January 11, 2010

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2.662,000 viewers
CNN – 648,000 viewers
MSNBC –715,000 viewers
CNBC – 296,000 viewers
HLN –595,000 viewers

5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,786,000 viewers (709,000) (1,210,000)
Situation Room—668,000 viewers (147,000) (249,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews —443,000 viewers (82,000) (188,000)

8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor – 3,499,000 viewers (932,000) (1,600,000)
Campbell Brown – 564,000 viewers (133,000) (216,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 909,000 viewers (232,000) (486,000)
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I once said years ago that the genius of Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch is to have discovered a niche of American broadcasting audience in news, namely, half of the American people.
And those that live in the warm liberal cocoon of pop culture and academia will never understand that.
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you sound like you're saying academia is a bad thing
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you sound like you're saying academia is a bad thing
I spent 6 years in college albiet in Oklahoma during the Reagan years. Liberal Arts that teach students how to think. Good. Liberal Arts that teach them what to think. Not so good.

For instance, speech codes on campus should be, if anything, less restrictive, not more.
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