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Old 08-29-2012, 09:48 PM   #91
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I must say I'm really surprised by many of the responses on this topic. People who are normally pretty sharp, seem to be. . .less so on this topic.

I really expected to hear stronger arguments than what's been put forth so far. Are we seriously comparing an appendectomy to circumcision? I mean, really?
Sorry for coming across as stupid to you.

My problem with the AAP's recommendation is the logic that they are using. I am not sure why you are satisfied with the logic applied to circumcision as preventative medicine, because to me that's what's not sharp in this debate. I don't think that they've put together anything that's convincing, so why put it out at all? I am not familiar with the way the organization operates so I can't pass judgment on their motivations, etc.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:03 PM   #92
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Anitram, I do not think of you as stupid. Far from it.

I do think of you as a human being, like myself, and we aren't always strictly logical. For me it's not that I'm satisfied so much as I don't feel it's quite such a big deal one way or the other. I don't think people "should" get circumcised--obviously I don't think they shouldn't.
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Anitram, I do not think of you as stupid. Far from it.

I do think of you as a human being, like myself, and we aren't always strictly logical. For me it's not that I'm satisfied so much as I don't feel it's quite such a big deal one way or the other. I don't think people "should" get circumcised--obviously I don't think they shouldn't.
But do you not think a person should be able to decide this for themself? I think that's the main issue
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It seems silly to me that a cultural practice that involves the unnecessary mutilation of a baby boy's penis isn't a big deal.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:14 PM   #95
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But do you not think a person should be able to decide this for themself? I think that's the main issue
They do in some places.

I know in the Philippines it's a rite of passage that takes place. . .I think in your earliteens. I remember some of my former students going from Saipan back to the Philippines to have it done.

Personally, I'm glad it happened when I was young.
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It seems silly to me that a cultural practice that involves the unnecessary mutilation of a baby boy's penis isn't a big deal.
Many cultural practices could be described as silly, I suppose.

Also I do not accept the label of mutilated--thank you.
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But it is mutilated.
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My son was circumcised as a part of surgery to correct hypospadias when he was about two.

Circumcision was not a "given" for us, but they used the skin from the circumcision to reconstruct his penis so that the opening of his penis was on the tip rather than on the underside of the shaft. At least that's my understanding.

At any rate the whole process of having our child under major surgery was very hard for us. It wasn't made any easier by the anti-circumcision zealots I came across when researching my son's condition who maintained that even repairing of hypospadias amounted to mutilation. THAT made me angry.
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But it is mutilated.
I do not accept that.

Not anymore than someone who has had a tattoo is mutilated, or has had their ear, nose, or eyebrow pierced.
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It's probably too personal, but I'd be incredibly interested to see if this argument falls right along the lines of those who are circumcised arguing for it vs. those who aren't arguing against it.
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^Good point.
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It's probably too personal, but I'd be incredibly interested to see if this argument falls right along the lines of those who are circumcised arguing for it vs. those who aren't arguing against it.
I don't think it's too personal, but I just don't want to be the first one to post a picture
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Most American males born in the late 1970s were circumcised.

I do agree that most men also dont want to say anything negative about their genitalia.
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And by the way, those people giving you a hard time about your son are straight up assholes
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