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Old 07-23-2013, 11:39 PM   #76
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your last post seemed very reasonable,

I am guilty of not having the patience to read every thing in this thread
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So in other words you both agree.

No.

I fault the GOP for creating various political narratives through which racism -- overt and subtle -- becomes socially acceptable.

It started with the Palin "real Americans" rallies in 2008, and continues.

I also fault the "war on drugs." Nothing has done more to devastate urban black communities.

I also acutely understand how members of a minority feel the need to actually better than their majority counterparts in order to prove their worth to the majority.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:42 PM   #78
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:43 PM   #79
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We are watching House of Cards right now, 2 episodes from the end.

I think it's a TV show with Kevin Spacey playing a super villain. It's immensely entertaining, but just an entertainment. It's too cartoonishly cynical to be taken as anything else.
I really enjoyed the BBC productions,
I did get a free one year pass to NetFlix and I think I will finally buy a 60 inch LED TV this weekend and activate it

I watch too much TV now, god help me
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No.

I fault the GOP for creating various political narratives through which racism -- overt and subtle -- becomes socially acceptable.

It started with the Palin "real Americans" rallies in 2008, and continues.

I also fault the "war on drugs." Nothing has done more to devastate urban black communities.

I also acutely understand how members of a minority feel the need to actually better than their majority counterparts in order to prove their worth to the majority.
That was actually aimed more at him than you. . .
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:49 PM   #81
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That was actually aimed more at him than you. . .

Fair enough.

It *is* late ...
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:13 AM   #82
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What a fantastic back and forth between you and Sean. Very inspiring. I love when I go away for a bit and find two or three great pages in a row.
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being a vegetarian is a lifestyle, being gay is not.

i'm sure people know i'm gay, but i can honestly say that i've never felt threatened at all (can't say the same for some of my friends, however, as i know people who have been bashed and physically harassed). but Memphis and i are thick, rock solid men. and we also don't go places where we might feel threatened, and being gay you can usually "pass" if you need to, whereas you really can't hide being black. or white.
You're right on the "vegetarian is a lifestyle, being gay is not" and I apologize. I didn't mean it like that and I understand I was wrong. I can only imagine how you must feel if the wrong group of people realize you're sexuality and choose to take it out on you. It's very real in this country and sad that it is. I wonder who mainstream America has more hatred for. Gay men or Black men?
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We are watching House of Cards right now, 2 episodes from the end.

I think it's a TV show with Kevin Spacey playing a super villain. It's immensely entertaining, but just an entertainment. It's too cartoonishly cynical to be taken as anything else.
Gotta check it out. I love Kevin Spacey. He's a great actor and has been in some great roles.
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I fault the GOP for creating various political narratives through which racism -- overt and subtle -- becomes socially acceptable.

I also fault the "war on drugs." Nothing has done more to devastate urban black communities.
I don't see the GOP as creating political narratives to which racism is accepted. I more see the Left as using race as a political rallying tool to energize their base. I asked my black girlfriend about it. She can't stand Sharpton and Jesse and understands their motives. They would be unemployed without racism so they have to accuse it whenever they can. They became rich because of it. She understands their motives and stated that most of her friends who are black understand that Sharpton and Jesse are full of b.s.

Ya the war on drugs was a failure. Free all the crackheads I say.
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But it's quite clear given the politics that govern the base of the GOP that many people have a vested, political, and monetary interest in keeping black Americans a suspect class, and in maintaining an underclass. That won't change, at least not for another generation, or until the GOP becomes something other than a protest movement against all things Obama.
It's not black Americans remaining in the underclass because of the GOP. It's because of the Left keeping them in their system of depending on the government. Welfare, food stamps, section 8, the more babies they have the more they get. Why should they try to improve themselves and get an education? Why work 2080 hrs a year for $50,000 when the gov will give me $40,000.
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It's not black Americans remaining in the underclass because of the GOP. It's because of the Left keeping them in their system of depending on the government. Welfare, food stamps, section 8, the more babies they have the more they get. Why should they try to improve themselves and get an education? Why work 2080 hrs a year for $50,000 when the gov will give me $40,000.
Why isn't this true for all the working people whose income is in the 50k range (if you think that the government will hand out 40k per year, a claim of which I am skeptical)?
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Wait, let me get the guitar.

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1, 2, 3 "Kumbaya, my lord (metaphorically for JT' sake ). . . "


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Why should they try to improve themselves and get an education? Why work 2080 hrs a year for $50,000 when the gov will give me $40,000.
Probably because the government doesn't give you anywhere close to $40k/year on welfare.
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One party race baits and has been very clear that they are after white votes. One party has absolutely used race as a weapon against the first African-American president.
I know this fits the current narrative of the left, but I think you've mixed up the parties here. When universal health care was proposed in the 90's, opposition was not labeled as "sexist" because the most vocal proponent was Hillary Clinton.

For the current administration, opposition to major legislation inevitably gets tagged as racist by some leader on the left. The weapon here is meant to silence valid criticism/debate of political policy.
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