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Old 05-08-2012, 04:30 PM   #16
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I can't see myself finding it less grating if it were a white man saying it.

Besides, you're talking about a guy who (per the article) also said, "One of the things that I would do is take all black people back to the South and put them on the plantation so they would understand the ethic of working."
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:10 PM   #17
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I can't see myself finding it less grating if it were a white man saying it.

Besides, you're talking about a guy who (per the article) also said, "One of the things that I would do is take all black people back to the South and put them on the plantation so they would understand the ethic of working."
I would just like to think, given his race's history, he would have a little more empathy. I hadn't read that quote though. Sheds a bit of light on his particular brand of wackjobdom
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:57 PM   #18
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Besides, you're talking about a guy who (per the article) also said, "One of the things that I would do is take all black people back to the South and put them on the plantation so they would understand the ethic of working."
Excluding himself I presume.

Wow, he's got issues.
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:43 PM   #19
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He takes the concept of "it was better in the old days" to the extreme. He doesn't ask the right questions. Is work ethic suffering in America? Yeah. But whose fault is that? There are a lot of parents that coddle their children and don't allow their kids to learn how the real world is. Spoiled brats that aren't willing to work for their money and want to get by on the least effort possible weren't born that way, they were made that way. Turning an entire race into slaves is not going to fix this.
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The kids aren't spoiled by their parents, for the most part. They're spoiled by the rhetoric of those who advertise the existence of an "American Dream."
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:10 AM   #21
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The kids aren't spoiled by their parents, for the most part. They're spoiled by the rhetoric of those who advertise the existence of an "American Dream."
I think they're more spoiled by the information overload and mass availability of media.
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I think this is one of the greatest achievements of our time. Practically everything you could ever want to know is about 2 minutes away. If I ever find myself thinking or saying 'I don't know', 99 times out of 100, I'm looking it up later that day. We're the only generation in history to be able to say that
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the quality of the information is very suspect

we live in a time when one is able to quickly find the facts they desire to validate their views
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I think this is one of the greatest achievements of our time. Practically everything you could ever want to know is about 2 minutes away. If I ever find myself thinking or saying 'I don't know', 99 times out of 100, I'm looking it up later that day. We're the only generation in history to be able to say that
Kids shouldn't have unrestricted access to information/the internet. A lot of them nowadays do. I see six-year-olds with their own laptops and the parents don't even try to monitor the history.
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Kids shouldn't have unrestricted access to information
I get what you're saying, just this part I don't agree with
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the quality of the information is very suspect
As long as you're not a lazy researcher, it's not difficult to find quality information
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I get what you're saying, just this part I don't agree with
Children should not have unrestricted access to information. This can end badly in so many ways. Keep in mind when I say children I mean <12. It goes into a larger gray area then. Imagine a 6-year-old on 2005-esque 4chan. If kids have access to information, the parents need to be there going through it with them. I stand by this because there are a lot of things and ideas that can be put into the heads of children (who are still developing their skills in logic) that are really unhealthy if a parent isn't there to explain it. I don't believe any elementary school student has the right to go unwatched throughout the internet.
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We're probably just arguing semantics then. When I say information, I'm talking about quality information, not the garbage on 4chan. With all the crap they could be spending their time taking in, if a kid would rather spend the time learning and exploring, what could be better? I wish I had access to all this when I was younger; My young brain cells could've been storing something useful instead of Mortal Kombat finishing moves (though I must say, they were useful at the time)
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I'm with you man. Luckily being younger than you whenever I've wanted to know something about the universe, all I've had to do us google it.
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We're probably just arguing semantics then. When I say information, I'm talking about quality information, not the garbage on 4chan. With all the crap they could be spending their time taking in, if a kid would rather spend the time learning and exploring, what could be better? I wish I had access to all this when I was younger; My young brain cells could've been storing something useful instead of Mortal Kombat finishing moves (though I must say, they were useful at the time)
It's very easy for kids to end up places on the internet that are less than stellar (even if the intentions are innocent). I remember being seven and going on a video game fan website and ending up stumbling on some fan site full of hand drawn porn. Yeah. I remember back when the old format for forums was still in use and nothing was censored, porn bots could be anywhere, and people would constantly post rather obscene things ("You should just kill yourself!" along with other stuff).

If a kid wants to go on the internet and learn about space and NASA, be my guest, but I'll be monitoring their every move until they've earned the right to privacy.
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