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Old 04-25-2013, 08:13 PM   #16
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You were doing so good there for a while, Iron Horse. Are you really going to fall back into this tired old persona?
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I love how whenever something goes wrong in this country, it turns into a bash-the-president fest. Like he's the sole person in charge, an absolute ruler.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:24 PM   #18
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You were doing so good there for a while, Iron Horse. Are you really going to fall back into this tired old persona?

I'm just staying on topic here.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:31 PM   #19
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Your facts?
"Basically this article is shit and Tom Cotton is a flat out liar, because by his definition of "reached target" there would have been plenty under Bush."


Post a terrorist attack that happened after 9/11.

You answer that question
and then you can ask me one
Next time try reading my full post, or quote my full post. These 5 examples do not qualify as examples for this premise.
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I love how whenever something goes wrong in this country, it turns into a bash-the-president fest. Like he's the sole person in charge, an absolute ruler.
That's the common American, poverty-stricken, stupid, ignorant and close minded mentality.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:53 AM   #21
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In the over seven years after 9/11 under George W. Bush, how many terrorists reached their target in the United States? Zero!
Hmm, I don't know about you but I think that the 2001 shoe bomber still has an impact on people flying today. People still need to take off their shoes before going through security.
So that's at least one that immediately popped up in my head.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:32 AM   #22
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I fail to understand how everything that happens in the US is fault of a president's administration.
Yeah exactly! How convenient it is to blame Bush or Obama... "It happened on your watch!!! Bastard!" You know, presidents inherit all the things that have gone wrong from previous presidents too. Very difficult to make blanket statements like that.

Besides, everything is interconnected. The Boston bombings probably wouldn't have happened if the pointless Iraq war hadn't happened. 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened if US foreign policy had been straight in the first place. The US has killed more people worldwide than any other nation on earth. Economic Hit Men. Look it up!
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Yeah exactly! How convenient it is to blame Bush or Obama... "It happened on your watch!!! Bastard!" You know, presidents inherit all the things that have gone wrong from previous presidents too. Very difficult to make blanket statements like that.

Besides, everything is interconnected. The Boston bombings probably wouldn't have happened if the pointless Iraq war hadn't happened. 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened if US foreign policy had been straight in the first place. The US has killed more people worldwide than any other nation on earth. Economic Hit Men. Look it up!


That book is conspiratorial nonsense.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:49 AM   #24
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That book is conspiratorial nonsense.
That is what I've heard some people say. Who knows who to believe anymore.
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Post a terrorist attack that happened after 9/11.

You answer that question
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What about the hundreds upon hundreds of terrorist attacks in Iraq, carried out as a direct result of the Bush administrations policies? Do those not count?

Why not?
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Post a terrorist attack that happened after 9/11.

You answer that question
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Anthrax? DC Snipers?

Not only did you set up silly goalposts in hopes of narrowing the conversation into a bizarre window, you also are straight up wrong in saying that there was no terrorism after 9/11 under Bush. Four hundred and seventeen strikes and you're out, Iron Horse.
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Yeah, Bush happens to be president for the single largest act of terrorism on US soil but gets a pass for the next seven years.
And what alot of people don'tb know/remember is that the Clinton Admin kept warning inccoming GW Bush Admin about Bin Laden!
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:32 AM   #28
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Who knows who to believe anymore.
Start with the facts first. Facts are facts. Not what you or anyone else chooses to believe. Doing that alone eliminates most options w/r/t whom to believe. Then, use common sense.

If you do those two things, diligently, and you understand that the world is chaotic and doesn't actually make any ordered sense, it's going to be pretty hard to fall into conspiratorial nonsense.

Most conspiracy crap (or more generally - mythology) comes from trying to put order over chaos.

The world is chaotic. There is no single Big Bad Villain with which to associate all of our fears so that we may work together to topple it over.

It's that simple. Really. Not trying to be condescending here, just trying to be helpful.
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Post a terrorist attack that happened after 9/11.

You answer that question
and then you can ask me one
Terrorist attacks o' plenty.

De3c 2001, Anthrax attacks.
July 4th 2002, Egyptain guy kills two Israeli people at LAX.
October 2002, DC Sniper
October 2005, man detonates bomb near stadium at Oklahoma football game.
March 2006, Iranian-born man drives SUV into crowd of people in NC, injuring 9.
August 2006. In San Fran, Afghani man hits 19 pedestrians with his SUV, killing 1 injuring 15.
October 2007, a pair of improvised grenades are thrown at the Mexican consulate in NYC.
March 2008, bomb goes off in Times Square.
April 2008, bomb goes off at the Fed Express building in San Diego.
July 2008, Knoxville shooting involving Unitarian wacko. Kills 2.
October 2008, suicide bomber in Dalton, GA, injured 4.

I'll let someone else ask you the question.
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Terrorist attacks o' plenty.

De3c 2001, Anthrax attacks.
July 4th 2002, Egyptain guy kills two Israeli people at LAX.
October 2002, DC Sniper
October 2005, man detonates bomb near stadium at Oklahoma football game.
March 2006, Iranian-born man drives SUV into crowd of people in NC, injuring 9.
August 2006. In San Fran, Afghani man hits 19 pedestrians with his SUV, killing 1 injuring 15.
October 2007, a pair of improvised grenades are thrown at the Mexican consulate in NYC.
March 2008, bomb goes off in Times Square.
April 2008, bomb goes off at the Fed Express building in San Diego.
July 2008, Knoxville shooting involving Unitarian wacko. Kills 2.
October 2008, suicide bomber in Dalton, GA, injured 4.

I'll let someone else ask you the question.

one question for you,

that is a pretty good list, where did you find it? did you verify* any of it?

(ok, that's two questions)

I just did the last one, and found this

JNF- Breaking News: Bomb injures lawyers in Dalton, GA | Headline | JusticeNewsFlash Release

that hardly qualifies as a 'terrorist attack'.
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