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Old 12-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #631
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Deep, I really think you should take that photo down. There is no need to show two children terrified and devastated like that. I know I'm not a mod, but really...
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:31 PM   #632
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About the thing in China, I read that ~20 were wounded but none were killed.
well how long do you think it will take to find an incident where a bunch of kids were killed by a 'bad person' without a gun??

in the last 12 months, even?
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:33 PM   #633
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I guess you're trying to illustrate your point, but I just feel its a bit insensitive.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:34 PM   #634
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Deep, I really think you should take that photo down. There is no need to show two children terrified and devastated like that. I know I'm not a mod, but really...
really ?? it's on the front page of the Drudge Report, and most other (even ) responsible news sites.

I would not put up a picture of dead kids,
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:35 PM   #635
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really ?? it's on the front page of the Drudge Report, and most other (even ) responsible news sites.

I would not put up a picture of dead kids,
Even I'm bothered by what those sites did. Why sink to their level?

Like I said, I'm not a mod. So do what you like.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:39 PM   #636
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it's a sad day when we have to seriously think about having armed police at elementary schools.
I wouldn't really think of it as 'armed police'. I mean it's a bit of a redundancy, considering 'unarmed police' are not a normal sight.

It is a sad day though. Hindsight as it may be, but we should have considered this without the shooting. Elementary schools (and all public schools) tend to be generally more isolated institutions with concentrated populations of some of the most defenseless individuals. I can't speak for everywhere, but I can tell you that in my state we have more than enough sheriffs patrolling the roads giving out unnecessary fines and not enough protecting our people.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:39 PM   #637
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Even I'm bothered by what those sites did. Why sink to their level?

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did you see my location?



you may not want to go out

they are on t v and will be in every newspaper and magazines for the foreseeable future
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:41 PM   #638
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nothing

with each 'new' incident the arguments remain the same.

1. the gun was not the problem, the law breaker was
2. in Texas or (insert state here) people have the right to carry everywhere, and they will give examples of when a law abiding person used his gun to stop a bad person.
3. we have enough laws on books, we don't need new laws, we just need better enforcement
4. look what just happened in China 22 kids, not 18 were killied where guns are banned by a knife, people that want to kill will find a means to do so.
5. because bad people do bads things, we should not lose our Constitutional rights, why should bad people control what rights good people have

( I could probably write 10 more)
Politically speaking, the military industrial complex's incredible power over legislation and the political parties is a massive problem. The same firearm and ammunition manufacturers who sell retail to private citizens, also sell to the government. Any "scare" to these companies that they might lose some of sales, in turn is met with a threat to the government that they would have to increase their prices and contracts to cover the possible loss to their sales.

Fundamentally, the main reason for the lack of idea of what to do is tied into the Bill of Rights. The precedent of even editing or adjusting, let alone overturning, one of the fundamental rights provided has left the country confused as to how to handle the dangers inherent to private citizens owning firearms for nearly a century. Certainly the founding fathers didn't expect the implications this would cause with future technological advancements. That said, the horrific potential percent it would set to overturn or drastically edit one of the fundamental rights provided has left the government baffled, particularly with how all over the map the opinions what the policies should be are.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:46 PM   #639
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you may not want to go out

they are on t v and will be in every newspaper and magazines for the fore seeable future
Whatever, deep.

With a tragedy like this, a little sensitivity would be nice rather than look to shock people.
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the incident is shocking, and that is an understatement

a jpep on a discussion board? at most is an oportunity for those that may not care, to take a momemtary pause
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I think maybe you could drop It, just this once
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:30 PM   #642
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Horrifying. Perverse. Right before the holidays, can't begin to imagine what those poor families are feeling right now.

Usual parroting of "now is not the time to talk about gun control". You're right, that day came and passed a long time ago. Seems like nobody in America, Obama very much included, has any kind of principled stand here. Sad.
I just watched the replay of his statement and that sure was some genuine emotion. But yes, who will take a genuine stand? Too many of them in bed with the NRA.
It's shameful.
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Stumbled onto this on Facebook, one of the most disgusting things I've seen in my life.

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https://www.facebook.com/video/video...45530075545412
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:25 PM   #644
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Stumbled onto this on Facebook, one of the most disgusting things I've seen in my life.

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https://www.facebook.com/video/video...45530075545412
I don't the latest Flash so I didn't see the video, but I saw the comments and I am disgusted beyond belief that someone would do that. How the hell does someone post a video of a mother beating her young child and think its OK to do so? Even worse, if you look at the very first set of comments, some people think its funny.
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I think there is a real chance that baby is no longer alive.
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