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Old 08-22-2012, 02:42 AM   #406
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I fully agree with you that these "blasphemy" accusations are bullshit coverups. I do think some people in countries where they have much tighter laws on that stuff do actually get genuinely offended by such displays, but yeah, no question that they'll use anything as an excuse to attack people.

I also agree that it's tough regarding support from the West on this issue. Certainly this girl has my support, and I hope everything works out for the best for her. And this reassures me, too:

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The number of prominent Pakistani public figures who've gone on record criticizing this incident does suggest that this girl stands a better-than-average chance of getting charges dropped early, and it seems the international attention her story's received helped significantly with that.
That is fantastic. But of course, like you noted, we don't have the greatest track record of involvement in that area of the world, and our biases and lack of proper understanding of that area definitely hurt as well and can make things worse. It's so frustrating, because we should be on board with supporting this girl, and to be fair I think many would agree that she doesn't deserve what she's going through.

I would also like to note as well that the next time I hear religious people in the States complain about being "persecuted" for their beliefs simply because someone dares to suggest our country's laws shouldn't be decided by one specific religion, they should think about stories like this.
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:51 PM   #407
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I'm not disgusted with this, but definitely find this to be very weird.

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Wedding photographers are being invited to an unusual kind of afterparty.
Brides and grooms — who already often obsessively document their first kiss, first cake slice and first dance — are adding yet another first to their wedding photographer’s list: the morning after.
Sexy shoots featuring rumpled beds and steamy showers are a hot new trend within the wedding business. As the seating charts and floral arrangements fade into memory, these intimate photo shoots take place in newlyweds’ bedrooms or even the hotels where they’ve spent their first night as husband and wife.


“As the day progressed, we established this fantastic chemistry with her," said Shamis, who later posted the racy photos on Facebook and intends to someday share them with her kids.
“I wouldn’t show this to them at the age of 10,” Shamis said. “But when they’re older and can understand it. It’s their parents looking artistic … not at all pornography.”

Whoa, talk about TMI! What kid wants to see pics of their parents' wedding night? Every kid's worst nightmare is to see their parents doing anything sexual. Also, I feel there is something narcissistic about this.
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:08 PM   #408
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why the hell not

if this is where we are going


















why not have this picture of where we began




( sorry Pearl, I edited after looking at the article )
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:12 PM   #409
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Some of these people are already posting the photos on FB.

But yeah, videotaping their wedding night will definitely be next on the list.

But if you want to photograph and film your wedding night, fine. But do it yourself and keep it between you and your spouse - not show your kids and allow a total stranger to do the photography or filming!
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:32 AM   #410
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Also, I feel there is something narcissistic about this.
Ya think? People seem to be running out of new ways to overshare. They must spend hours thinking them up (not as much time left for sex..hmmm, quandary). Yeah, photos of the actual sex will probably be the next thing, the final frontier. Post them on Facebook too.

What do you do with those photos when the marriage falls apart?

For me personally intimacy like that is just special, well it's supposed to be. And when you overshare it it just loses that. Not just talking about sexual intimacy either. If you spent all that time of the photos and sharing them, etc on the actual intimacy, it would probably be off the charts amazing.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:59 AM   #411
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Yes, because we need to have additional pressure on the day.

You must get married!
You must have a perfect wedding!
You must have mind-blowing sex on your wedding night!
You must look fantastic in your morning-after picture!
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:51 PM   #412
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Speaking of weddings, I had never heard of this tradition before this weekend. Is it a new thing?

Anyway, a very sad story:

Quebec bride Maria Pantazopoulos drowned in ‘trash the dress’ photo shoot | Canada | News | National Post
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I donated my dress after trying to sell it for 5 years.
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marriage is a mockery now

none of this crap happened before gays were allowed to marry







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I donated my dress after trying to sell it for 5 years.

next time
think of the children
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Sigh...so this just came up on Yahoo!.

Student shot at Md. high school; suspect held - Yahoo! News

'Cause we haven't had nearly enough of these sorts of stories lately. For the love of god, people, THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
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Afghan President Hamid Karzai accused the Taliban on Monday of beheading 17 villagers, including two women, in volatile Helmand province, in a gruesome attack recalling the dark days of the hardline group's rule before their 2001 overthrow.

The killings, in a district where U.S. Marines have long battled with a resilient Taliban, could be a sign the Islamist group is reasserting itself before the planned pull-out of most NATO combat troops in 2014.

Karzai ordered a full investigation into the "mass killing", which a local official said was punishment meted out to revellers attending a party with music and mixed-sex dancing.

"Such actions show that there are desperate members among the Taliban," Karzai said in a statement.

The Taliban denied involvement in the attack, which Karzai's office said took place in the province's Kajaki district.
Afghanistan: Taliban Insurgents Behead 17 Afghans As Punishment For Attending Party, Dancing

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Good god.

If the Taliban are involved...good to know the ten or so years we've spent dealing with them have been well spent.

*Sighs again*
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In regards to that "trendy" morning-after wedding shoot, turns out it is not a trend at all.

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So the concept of "morning after" shoots is nothing new -- it's the sexy part that is. But Jonné seems to be the only photographer offering this service. So does one person equal a trend? We don't think so.
'Morning After' Photos: Sexy New Wedding Photography Trend?

Should've looked into the article more, but then again the content was shocking. Based on what HuffPo wrote here, it sounds like a press release for this one photographer that the media picked up as actual news. That, or sensationalism has ruined journalism once again.
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Sixteen-year-old Olympic gold medalist Gabby Douglas is having a busy year, what with the gold medals and the Corn Flakes box and the interview with Oprah. But while most of the news regarding the bubbly teen is good, some of it remains negative. And in a piece by Buzz Bissinger for the October issue of Vanity Fair, Gabby again opens up about how she was treated while training at Excalibur Gymnastics in Virginia Beach. Once, she left her clothes by her locker, only to come back and find them gone — she had no shirt wear to leave the locker room, and "other gymnasts started laughing at her." Then there was, as previously discussed, the "she's our slave" comment. But, according to Bissinger:

Even more painful was an incident several years ago at a party where Gabby says an Excalibur staff member told her she might want to consider reconstructive surgery on her nose because of its flatness. Some other gymnasts had teased Gabby about her appearance, and she found the nose comment "very hurtful."

Excalibur President and CEO Gustavo Moure has denied that anyone in the gym was ever "knowingly involved in any type of bullying or racist treatment".
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