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Old 09-29-2012, 06:00 PM   #136
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Fully agreed on that.

This is pretty shitty and unsettling, to say the least.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:02 PM   #137
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Maybe my biggest disappointment with Obama has been the fact that he has not rolled back the Patriot Act and similarly invasive executive powers that Bush put in place.
This is my disappointment with Obama as well.

BUT it's also an area that shines a light on the hypocrisy and blind hated of his vocal opposition. I mean when it comes to foreign policy he is Reagan and W rolled into one.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:08 PM   #138
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Why are we so nasty to each other online? Whether on Facebook, Twitter, message boards or websites, we say things to each other that we would never say face to face. Shouldn't we know better by now?
Anonymity is a powerful force. Hiding behind a fake screen name makes us feel invincible, as well as invisible. Never mind that, on many websites, we're not as anonymous as we think—and we're not anonymous at all on Facebook. Even when we reveal our real identities, we still misbehave.
According to soon-to-be-published research from professors at Columbia University and the University of Pittsburgh, browsing Facebook lowers our self control. The effect is most pronounced with people whose Facebook networks were made up of close friends, the researchers say.
Most of us present an enhanced image of ourselves on Facebook. This positive image—and the encouragement we get, in the form of "likes"—boosts our self-esteem. And when we have an inflated sense of self, we tend to exhibit poor self-control.
Why We Are So Rude on Facebook and Other Social Media - WSJ.com

The Internet is like a drug, basically. That what I got from this article.

Hey, its not called Blue Crack for nothing!
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:07 PM   #139
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Think of it as a licensing effect: You feel good about yourself so you feel a sense of entitlement," says Keith Wilcox, assistant professor of marketing at Columbia Business School and co-author of the study. "And you want to protect that enhanced view, which might be why people are lashing out so strongly at others who don't share their opinions." These types of behavior—poor self control, inflated sense of self—"are often displayed by people impaired by alcohol," he adds.
So being impaired by alcohol and being online would be a double whammy, so to speak. Um, yeah.

Interesting article
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #140
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This is why we can’t have nice things, people. Sure, Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard may be calling her recent Facebook question and answer session with her constituents a “success,” but when you’re dealing with humans who have access to Facebook, remember that success is a very relative term.

Gillard had taken to Facebook on Monday to discuss her education policies in real time, the first event of its kind for the Australian government. But if you’ve ever spent five minutes on the Internet — and in particular if you’re a woman — you can guess what happened next. The 51-year-old leader was called a “slut.” She was asked, “Are your pubes as radiant, shiny and glorious as mine?” She was invited to “McPiss off you red-headed bloody McClown.” She was told, “Get my dinner ready.” And, because online animosity toward Gillard has been particularly nasty since Sydney radio personality Alan Jones declared last month that her recently deceased father had “died of shame … to think that he had a daughter who told lies every time she stood for Parliament,” she was also asked, “How’s your dad?” Say what you will about the Internet’s robust sexist, troglodyte population, at least they’re predictable.

The egalitarian nature of social media makes it a natural dwelling place for massive displays of trollishness. Ever read the replies to any politician’s Twitter stream? The spelling alone will make you despair for humanity. Have you seen Barack Obama’s Instagram feed? It doubles as a window into the racist underbelly of American idiocy.

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Watch this, Mrs Springsteen, Pearl, Angela, et al. It will make you feel much better.

Gillard labels Abbott a misogynist - YouTube
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Watch this, Mrs Springsteen, Pearl, Angela, et al. It will make you feel much better.

Gillard labels Abbott a misogynist - YouTube

Wow, that is really something! Very impressive!
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I watched that video yesterday. Can you give us a simple version of what led to her speech there? I read about it but I know nothing about politics in Australia.
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Basically the Speaker of the house turned out to be a bit of grub. He sent thousands of dirty (and very poorly spelt, which I found more offensive) text messages to his young male adviser. They got out and he was charged for sexual harassment and also for fraud. The opposition tried to pass a vote to get him kicked out (because it's a hung parliament it would improve their numbers if he wasn't speaker), and Abbott said the speaker was a sexist and a misogynist, which led to that speech.
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So the speaker is in the same party as the PM and Abbott is in the opposition? I enjoy the way they all yell out , maybe we need something like that here.

She laid the smackdown there, I like it. I can only imagine the Facebook comments to a female President, if we ever have one. The witch comment she referred to, gee that sounded familiar.
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Abbott went one further than that. Like the idiot that he is, in his motion speech, he resurrected radio shock jock Alan Jones' 'died of shame' line (in reference to the prime minister's recently deceased father) that caused such an uproar only a week earlier. As in 'this is a government that has (or should, can't recall) died of shame'.

At that point the prime minister owned him.

The former speaker was a member of the liberal/national coalition, although he ceased being so upon taking up the chair. I gather they claim to have been wanting to get rid of him for years. Didn't stop them preselecting him as recently as 2010.
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To be fair apparently he has been using that line for a long time.

Doesn't excuse the fact that it was horrible timing and extremely insensitive though. Moron. Very unfit to lead this country. Malcolm Turnbull lies in wait...
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How far is too far when it comes to corporate social-media policing? That's the question at the heart of a new controversy in which a black TV meteorologist in Louisiana, Rhonda Lee, was fired for responding—calmly, it should be said—to racist comments on her station's Facebook page, one of which was about her appearance.

On October 1, a man named Emmitt Vascocu wrote:

the black lady that does the news is a very nice lady.the only thing is she needs to wear a wig or grow some more hair. im not sure if she is a cancer patient. but still its not something myself that i think looks good on tv. what about letting someone a male have waist long hair do the news.what about that

Lee responded five days later (emphasis mine):

Hello Emmitt— I am the "black lady" to which you are referring. My name is Rhonda Lee. Nice to meet you. I am sorry you don't like my ethnic hair. And no I don't have cancer. I'm a non-smoking, 5'3, 121 lbs, 25+ mile a week running, 37.5 year old woman, and I'm in perfectly healthy physical condition.

I am very proud of my African-American ancestry which includes my hair. For your edification: traditionally our hair doesn't grow downward. It grows upward. Many Black women use strong straightening agents in order to achieve a more European grade of hair and that is their choice. However in my case I don't find it necessary. I'm very proud of who I am and the standard of beauty I display. Women come in all shapes, sizes, nationalities, and levels of beauty. Showing little girls that being comfortable in the skin and HAIR God gave me is my contribution to society. Little girls (and boys for that matter) need to see that what you look like isn't a reason to not achieve their goals.

Conforming to one standard isn't what being American is about and I hope you can embrace that.

Thank you for your comment and have a great weekend and thank for watching.

About a month later, on November 14, another viewer, Kenny Moreland, chimed in on KTBS's Facebook page to express frustration that a KTBS video of a charity event had too many black children in it:

Not to start any trouble, because I think that the annual 'Three Minute Smile' is a great function and I love to see kids so happy. Am I the only one that has noticed that this year, all the kids, lets say, are people of color? This is Channel 3, not KSLA, the 'Project Pride' network, that might as well be part of the BET Channel. Did KTBS slip up on a news story, and owe S'port's criminal mayor Cedric, a favor? Seems like some racism going on to me. Just saying.....

This time, reports the Maynard Institute's Richard Prince, Lee responded the next day, and a bit less cheerily this time:

I'm not sure I understand your comment, '...this is Channel 3 not KSLA...' What are you trying to say?

The children are picked at random. So there goes your theory that they are selected for their color. I would like to think it doesn't matter who the child is. If you truly just want to see the kids happy your message had a funny way of showing it.

Happy holidays.—Met. Rhonda Lee

Lee told Prince that she eventually asked her bosses to remove the second racist posting, but that they refused and then admonished her for responding to viewer comments at all. Not long after that, Lee was fired. "They told me the policy I violated isn't written down, but was mentioned in a newsroom meeting about a month-and-a-half prior. A meeting I didn't attend," said Lee. "So when I asked what rule did I break there isn't anything to point to."

I emailed KTBS Station Manager George Sirven, who responded with the following statement and a copy of an email Sirven claims Lee received back in August. As you can see, that email, an informal "Social Media Best Practices policy," explains that employees are not to respond to viewer complaints on Facebook. If they do respond, the note continues, "there is only one proper response," which is to direct the viewer to call an employee at the station whose job is fielding complaints:

Typically this station does not comment on personnel matters, but due to the publicity and interest about this issue, the station has included the following statement.

On November 28, 2012, KTBS dismissed two employees for repeated violation of the station's written procedure. We can confirm that Rhonda Lee was one of the employees. Another employee was a white male reporter who was an eight year veteran of the station. The policy they violated provided a specific procedure for responding to viewer comments on the official KTBS Facebook page. Included is an email that was sent to all new department employees informing them of this procedure. This procedure is based on advice from national experts and commonly used by national broadcast and cable networks and local television stations across the country.

Unfortunately, television personalities have long been subject to harsh criticism and negative viewer comments about their appearance and performance. If harsh viewer comments are posted on the station's official website, there is a specific procedure to follow.

Ms. Rhonda Lee was let go for repeatedly violating that procedure and after being warned multiple times of the consequences if her behavior continued. Rhonda Lee was not dismissed for her appearance or defending her appearance. She was fired for continuing to violate company procedure.

Should This Louisiana TV Reporter Be Fired for Responding to Racists on Facebook? Richard Prince notes that Lee filed a discrimination lawsuit against another former employer, Austin's KXAN, in May of this year, claiming that, among other things, she was "repeatedly subjected to crude and insensitive remarks about her race." Later, KXAN fired Lee. At the time of the KXAN suit, Lee was already at KTBS, where she ended up working for about 11 months before being fired a second time.

There's no word yet on whether Lee plans on bringing a lawsuit in this latest case, but in the meantime, the question becomes this: At what point does a company's "stay mum" social-media policy become injurious to an employee's sense of dignity? And if an employee does respond against its company's wishes, should level, reasoned responses like Lee's merit termination?

Regardless, the Lee story seems to be further evidence that many companies still have no idea how to navigate the complexities of social media, despite obviously drinking the Kool-Aid when it comes to the idea that social media is an integral part of success nowadays. The result is a company getting a Facebook page in order to facilitate community engagement while simultaneously hampering its employees from engaging even slightly with that community. Essentially, they're stripping all the "social" out of "social media," and then firing employees who push back at all against their archaic policy.
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This story kind of reminds me of the book publishing world where it is imperative for authors to not respond to bad reviews of their books. However, there are some who do anyway with bad consequences.

It just looks unprofessional to respond to negativity, even it is an ignorant, racist comment. Obviously with social media, companies and individuals with businesses need to adjust to the unpleasantness that comes with the territory. Its a new world for everyone.
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