Apparently there were reports he "drove over" his big bro (who may have been still alive) whilst escaping. I'm curious to see how his defense plays out. Will he play the "I was only the kid brother who was cajoled by bully elder brother" card? Seeing as he was hiding in a boat, he seems like the type who will do literally anything to save his own ass.
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Apparently there were reports he "drove over" his big bro (who may have been still alive) whilst escaping. I'm curious to see how his defense plays out. Will he play the "I was only the kid brother who was cajoled by bully elder brother" card? Seeing as he was hiding in a boat, he seems like the type who will do literally anything to save his own ass.
dazzledbylight
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I ABSOLUTELY understand why people have the gut feeling of wanting him dead--
--as a born & bread nyc'r who worked a year from '80-'81 on the NE Big Windows (fantastic view) 73rd floor of The South (#2) Trade Tower --
I had a deep sense of satisfaction when we found out Bin Laden had been killed.
So i understand why you'd want him to commit "hari kari" and I am glad we might find out why they did this.
--as a born & bread nyc'r who worked a year from '80-'81 on the NE Big Windows (fantastic view) 73rd floor of The South (#2) Trade Tower --
I had a deep sense of satisfaction when we found out Bin Laden had been killed.
So i understand why you'd want him to commit "hari kari" and I am glad we might find out why they did this.
dazzledbylight
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And yay for everyone in the Boston area to feel relived, and strength to all those grieving, injured, traumatized! Got teared up watching the crowd in Watertown cheering the police, firefighters as they leave.
trojanchick99
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Interesting to hear he won't be Mirandizing before initial questioning. There was an exemption granted due to the imminent danger to the public.
Uhm...
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That was NBC News Shepard Smith was video bombing. I'm sure it happens during such press conferences, but damn. Media Behaving Badly #500
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That was NBC News Shepard Smith was video bombing. I'm sure it happens during such press conferences, but damn. Media Behaving Badly #500
martha
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Really?
PhilsFan
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Yes. Confirmed by one of the agents in the press conference. They used the public safety exception to avoid a need for Miranda rights.
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here’s where another member of the chechnyan sleeper cell sneaks into the kid’s hospital room and slips something into his IV before the feds can question him.
martha
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I don't like that.
It doesn't mean that whoever made that decision is wrong. I'm sure they know more what they're doing than I do.
trojanchick99
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The good news is the exception expires, meaning in 48 hours he will be Mirandized.
martha
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Ok, good.
PennyLanePHINS
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Wasn't that someone else who was wrongly named? This guy went to some community college I thought??
The_Pac_Mule
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deep
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PhilsFan
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God, you are the worst.
The_Pac_Mule
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Beats the medical care he would have received in Russia I'm sure
PennyLanePHINS
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The one who is still alive actually has a confirmed Twitter account: https://twitter.com/J_tsar
Some eerie tweets since the 15th.
Some eerie tweets since the 15th.
OP
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BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
How he hasn't been suspended or reprimanded for trolling all these years is beyond me.
deep
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I haven't been able to follow this thread as closely as I'd like to, but this comment needs to be called out for being wholly inappropriate, jest or not. You get a lot of slack to play your devil's advocate schtick around here, deep. That's pushing it too far.
Hewson
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Last night after they captured him and loaded him into the ambulance, all the news stations said, "Now he's being taken to Mount Auburn Hospital", I said to the wife "why would they say where they're taking him?" thinking like you that either some chechyan or a local zealot would possibly try to ambush the ambulance or something like it was an episode of 24....a crowd gathered at Mount Auburn Hospital, and apparently Jack Bauer made the decision to have the ambulance drive him to Beth Israel hospital.
PhilsFan
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Or Jack Ruby, for a real life example.
Popmartijn
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Good they found the guy.
But here's the thing that's going around in my head for the past couple of days.
Everyone was shocked with the Boston bombings, which killed 3 people. And in many places (including this thread) you see some bloodthirsty comments for revenge, etc. And that's understandable.
But at the same time, there have been 3,500+ people shot dead in the US since the Sandy Hook shootings in Newtown. Even 40+ since this past Monday. And for that the outpour is minimal. The US Senate even voted against even the tiniest measures for controlling the number, type and sale of guns. This included measures for a background check, something which according to some polls 90% of the Americans support.
So what's the difference? Why all this emotion for what happened in Boston and not those many gun deaths? What am I missing here?
But here's the thing that's going around in my head for the past couple of days.
Everyone was shocked with the Boston bombings, which killed 3 people. And in many places (including this thread) you see some bloodthirsty comments for revenge, etc. And that's understandable.
But at the same time, there have been 3,500+ people shot dead in the US since the Sandy Hook shootings in Newtown. Even 40+ since this past Monday. And for that the outpour is minimal. The US Senate even voted against even the tiniest measures for controlling the number, type and sale of guns. This included measures for a background check, something which according to some polls 90% of the Americans support.
So what's the difference? Why all this emotion for what happened in Boston and not those many gun deaths? What am I missing here?
PennyLanePHINS
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I'm sure the story has only just begun. I severely doubt they were "lone wolves". The older brother who went to Russia (assuming it was the Chechen Region) for 6 months must have been trained by someone. And that whole issue of a foreign country telling the FBI about him in 2011. I'd bet it was Russia who reported him, they must keep tabs on the Chechens and saw someone was in contact with this guy.
Now it's odd because the Chechen Separatists have concentrated their attacks on Russia, so why start with the US too? Who knows, but terrorists are terrorists and they hate the west, and the US has supported Russia in the conflict. Plus, they've been linked with Al Qaeda.
Just my speculation, but it seems highly unlikely the 26-year-old brother did all this by himself without any outside guidance. I doubt the younger one has much information, but hopefully he has some.
Now it's odd because the Chechen Separatists have concentrated their attacks on Russia, so why start with the US too? Who knows, but terrorists are terrorists and they hate the west, and the US has supported Russia in the conflict. Plus, they've been linked with Al Qaeda.
Just my speculation, but it seems highly unlikely the 26-year-old brother did all this by himself without any outside guidance. I doubt the younger one has much information, but hopefully he has some.
corianderstem
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So what's the difference? Why all this emotion for what happened in Boston and not those many gun deaths? What am I missing here?
Many people here have been asking the same thing.
Paraphrasing what Jon Stewart said the other night ... we only care when foreigners come in and kill Americans. We don't mind so much when we kill each other.
LuckyNumber7
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Acts of terrorism change the way you live in your daily life. Being afraid of bring in crowds or walking by a trash can or doing every day, normal activities is what is so frightening about this.
I don't mean to say that those people who have been shot dead in an isolated event deserved it or something, but overall it should be no surprise that an act of terrorism is a much bigger deal. Especially when this wasn't just three dead. It was roughly 200 injured, with several amputees and thousands effected during the event and millions effected in the following days.
It's not the same.
I don't mean to say that those people who have been shot dead in an isolated event deserved it or something, but overall it should be no surprise that an act of terrorism is a much bigger deal. Especially when this wasn't just three dead. It was roughly 200 injured, with several amputees and thousands effected during the event and millions effected in the following days.
It's not the same.
martha
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So what's the difference? Why all this emotion for what happened in Boston and not those many gun deaths? What am I missing here?
An American hard-on for guns?
corianderstem
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Logically that makes sense, but it's maddening. We should care as much. We can take extreme measures to try and prevent terrorism, but we can't take common sense measures to try and prevent even one domestic massacre?
iron yuppie
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Good they found the guy.
But here's the thing that's going around in my head for the past couple of days.
Everyone was shocked with the Boston bombings, which killed 3 people. And in many places (including this thread) you see some bloodthirsty comments for revenge, etc. And that's understandable.
But at the same time, there have been 3,500+ people shot dead in the US since the Sandy Hook shootings in Newtown. Even 40+ since this past Monday. And for that the outpour is minimal. The US Senate even voted against even the tiniest measures for controlling the number, type and sale of guns. This included measures for a background check, something which according to some polls 90% of the Americans support.
So what's the difference? Why all this emotion for what happened in Boston and not those many gun deaths? What am I missing here?
It becomes even more disturbing when you extrapolate the violence to the whole world. How many innocent Syrians have died over the course of the last year? Yet that is barely a footnote in most US news coverage.
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what about kids going to school?? or going to the cinema??
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