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Old 04-22-2013, 11:41 PM   #676
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Calling these extremists Muslim is like calling the Westboro Baptist Church Christian. These terrorist organizations use religion to manipulate the vulnerable.
I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that most Muslims view such terrorist organisations the same way in which Christians view the WBC.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:44 PM   #677
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Should we begin to delve into white Christian anti-government zealots like McVeigh? Should we invade Oklahoma?
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:50 PM   #678
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Might need to send a few drone strikes down that way?
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:54 PM   #679
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I was making a broader point that Islam breeds extremism and ultraconservatism. Although I'm sure I'll be painted as a bigot for saying that here.

I used to be very defensive towards Islam and thought their religion is just as peaceful as Christianity and that it's just the supposed few radical Jihadists that give it a bad name. Then I went to Afghanistan and saw Islamic society in person. It's so twisted. I feel so bad for women who have to live in these societies.

And it's not just there. Seriously, would anyone like to live in Iran? Or Pakistan? Syria, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen.... the list goes on.

But I'm getting off topic, so heres this:

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Old 04-23-2013, 12:00 AM   #680
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Should we begin to delve into white Christian anti-government zealots like McVeigh? Should we invade Oklahoma?
I never understood liberals immediate response to criticism towards Islam is to immediately bring up christian extremists. That has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. But even so, they're not even comparable.
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Because the broader point should be that religion breeds extremism and ultraconservatism, not specifically Islam.
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Not to the extent that Islam does.

The extremists in Christianity pales in numbers and general ideology to that of Islam.

People like to bring up the WBC a lot.... as sick as they are, and I have many personal reasons to despise them, they're not on some brutal crusade to kill the unbelievers. They may preach hate, but they do it peacefully.
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Well I mean... we're not predator droning the shit out of the Westboro Baptist Church so there's that...
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:11 AM   #684
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Look at Egypt. They elected the Muslim brotherhood into power. The women there better get the burkas out!
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Not to the extent that Islam does.

The extremists in Christianity pales in numbers and general ideology to that of Islam.

People like to bring up the WBC a lot.... as sick as they are, and I have many personal reasons to despise them, they're not on some brutal crusade to kill the unbelievers. They may preach hate, but they do it peacefully.
No, not to the extent that Islam does, but I think that has much more to do with the geopolitics of the Middle East than it does with the actual values of Christianity vs. Islam.
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Not to the extent that Islam does.

The extremists in Christianity pales in numbers and general ideology to that of Islam.

People like to bring up the WBC a lot.... as sick as they are, and I have many personal reasons to despise them, they're not on some brutal crusade to kill the unbelievers. They may preach hate, but they do it peacefully.

Could it be that the economic conditions of these countries -- and their historic exploitation by the West -- is what has allowed more extreme forms of Islam to flourish there? And perhaps if a Christian country were as poor as Afghanistan you'd have the same hideous aspects of Christianity on display as well. Muslims in America are moderate and prosperous and successful immigrants.

No question, the treatment of women is deplorable. But I view Islam and Islamism as a symptom and not a cause.

Also, the WBC wants me dead, so there's that.
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Because the broader point should be that religion breeds extremism and ultraconservatism, not specifically Islam.
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Not to the extent that Islam does.

The extremists in Christianity pales in numbers and general ideology to that of Islam.
But also this
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No, not to the extent that Islam does, but I think that has much more to do with the geopolitics of the Middle East than it does with the actual values of Christianity vs. Islam
Geopolitics definitely don't help, but these two brothers spent most of their lives here in America. Their radicalization took place while they were here.
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Geopolitics definitely don't help, but these two brothers spent most of their lives here in America. Their radicalization took place while they were here.
The older brother did not spend most of his life in America.
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