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Old 08-16-2015, 12:15 AM   #46
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That's an oversimplification. There's no question that folks in the West have been given a very Western-centric view of WW2, much of which almost totally ignores how the Russians beat down the Nazis. But saying the Western-centric view of the war is not the total picture is not an excuse to turn around offer the Eastern-centric view of the war.



History (written objectively) tells us that wars in general, but especially THAT war, are extremely complicated. As was the decision to drop the bombs in '45. People can have varying POVs on all these matters, but the only people that are wrong are being absolute about much any of it.


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Ever wondered what would happen if a nuke hit your city? Wonder no more!

Here is a what if scenario?

Hitler does not invade the Soviet Union in June 41'. Instead accelerates his rocketry and jet research. The me-262 goes into action sooner in greater numbers. The allies didn't get their strategic bombing going until late 42. This would be totally ineffective against the jet fighters. The Germans would have complete air superiority. There is then a small window where they could take Britain before the U.S. Masters its naval supply convoy strategy. Then they could further their ballistic missile technology beyond the V-2. I could see a Cold War breaking out between the U.S. And Germany. Then Germany could choose whether or not to invade the ussr.

On a side note Amazon streaming adapted Philip k dicks "the man in the high castle" which imagines the nazis and Japanese winning and splitting the country in half. Honestly the booked sucked. But the series is set in that universe and the pilot was very cool.


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Here is a what if scenario?

Hitler does not invade the Soviet Union in June 41'. Instead accelerates his rocketry and jet research. The me-262 goes into action sooner in greater numbers. The allies didn't get their strategic bombing going until late 42. This would be totally ineffective against the jet fighters. The Germans would have complete air superiority. There is then a small window where they could take Britain before the U.S. Masters its naval supply convoy strategy. Then they could further their ballistic missile technology beyond the V-2. I could see a Cold War breaking out between the U.S. And Germany. Then Germany could choose whether or not to invade the ussr.

On a side note Amazon streaming adapted Philip k dicks "the man in the high castle" which imagines the nazis and Japanese winning and splitting the country in half. Honestly the booked sucked. But the series is set in that universe and the pilot was very cool.


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Have you ever heard of Harry Turtledove? He did an interesting alt-history series where aliens attacked the Earth during WWII. He also did one where the South won the Civil War and the Union and the South coexist as rivals. The timeline eventually ends with the Union defeating the South in WWII.


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Old 08-16-2015, 11:31 PM   #51
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Yeah. I have heard of it. A whole timeline that starts with intelligence message not being intercepted. I'll have to check it out


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