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Old 09-12-2008, 09:01 PM   #1
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Eight years on, what has Bush achieved?

You know who I mean, monkey boy himself.

What are his actual, concrete achievements?

I think eight year spans GENERALLY produce good presidents.

Cases in point:-

Nixon - great, and I'll happily argue in his favour with anyone. And he didn't even get the full eight years, the bastards got him.

Reagan - great, in my opinion, but only got into his stride properly in his second term.

Clenis - well, ok, not exactly great, but reasonably good. Matured with age.

So, what precisely has the Prince of Peace achieved?

Heavens, he's had enough time.

Any takers, and I mean it as a genuine question.
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And do you want McSame again?
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:13 PM   #3
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This is like asking somebody to find the silver lining in getting your leg caught in a wood chipper.
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This is like asking somebody to discuss the positives of getting your leg caught in a wood chipper.
It is necessary, at times, to get your leg caught in a wood chipper for the greater goal of defeatin' them terraists.

Thanks for your sacrifice, LemonMelon.
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The one thing I will give him credit for is that he didn't cave in to the extreme factions of his party on the immigration issue. There are some real nutbag xenophobes on the right and Bush did have a mostly correct policy from both a human POV and economic POV.

Not sure this can be considered an accomplishment since the issue is still in limbo, but compared to his other "accomplishments" at least it's something.
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The one thing I will give him credit for is that he didn't cave in to the extreme factions of his party on the immigration issue. There are some real nutbag xenophobes on the right and Bush did have a mostly correct policy from both a human POV and economic POV.

Not sure this can be considered an accomplishment since the issue is still in limbo, but compared to his other "accomplishments" at least it's something.

I think you give him too much credit!

While it's true that he didn't really kow-tow to the racists, I suspect it was largely due to political reasons, i.e., his brother being governor of a state with a large Hispanic vote.

Everything that blasted family of his does is for political and machiavellian reasons, IMO.
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While it's true that he didn't really kow-tow to the racists, I suspect it was largely due to political reasons, i.e., his brother being governor of a state with a large Hispanic vote.
That reminds me - what happened to Mexican Bush? George P. Bush, is it? That kid is gonna be running someday.
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That reminds me - what happened to Mexican Bush? George P. Bush, is it? That kid is gonna be running someday.
If he runs to form, he'd probably be in the cocaine phase round about now, having graduated from the college-fratboy-mine's a sixpack stage.

Afterwards: rehab (but hushed up).

'Cos, you know, even political families have these problems, 'cos they're HUMAN, and how dare these librul anti-American Democrats even draw attention to the problems faced by what is, after all, an ordinary, average, middle-class American family.

Then, a miraculous new found devotion to Christ, who happens to be the self-same supply side Christ who wants more conquest in the Middle East. To save dem Arabs from de terraism, don't you know.
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If he runs to form, he'd probably be in the cocaine phase round about now,
Now that you mention it, George P. does have a sister
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I'm not a Bush apologist, but Fareed Zakaria wrote a fascinating article in Newsweek about the shifts in Bush's second term. Worth reading.

Zakaria: What Bush Got Right | Newsweek Politics | Newsweek.com
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The only thing that George Bush has ever done for me, is give me a stimulus check.
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Aids/Africa?

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He does deserve credit for AIDS/Africa.

Unfortunately, the only other arguable positives are all foreign policy as well.

So anywhere but here I guess.

This is the Republicans for you in a nutshell.
Their domestic policy is NO domestic policy other than social reforms that try to turn back the clock to 1955 and a non-interventionalist domestic government that doesn't want to interfere with you, even though you are bankrolling their humongous national defense monster.

And don't get me wrong, I'm a bit of a hawk (just not a neo-conservative, democracy spreading hawk). I'm all for a beefed up national defense but I am surely for a more progressive social policy than one that is non-existant outside of token Jesus issues.
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There are people here who are far wiser than I am when it comes to finance issues, but I'm curious because I don't know much about the economy -- but it seems like each decade or so we're faced with either a major or minor recession. The late 80s springs to mind (I'm not sure what had motivated that, since I wasn't terribly conscious then), but the Internet bubble burst at the end of the Clinton presidency and the housing bubble burst at the end of the Bush presidency makes me wonder whether some economic trends are cylical more than anything else. Not to say that the policies of the last decade haven't had something to do with it (there was a fascinating article in Newsweek a few weeks ago laying the blame for much of the housing bubble at the feet of Greenspan), but I wonder if even the best economic policies are subject to unavoidable trends.

This has little to do with the topic at hand, however.
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