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Old 12-19-2010, 03:47 AM   #1
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Egypt's Christians kidnapped and forced to convert by some Muslims.

I couldn't believe BBC Newsnight video report. It's amazing how every atrocity committed in Iran is highlighted and perhaps should be denounced, and yet America's allies are carrying out similarly, if not worse, human rights crimes that go completely ignored by the mainstream US news media.

This is about how Christians (Copts) in Egypt face terrible discrimination, including that women are kidnapped and forced to convert to Christianity under threat of rape. The state then makes it incredibly difficult to convert to Christianity, so a woman forced to convert could lose her rights associated with being a Christian. Disgusting!
BBC News - Newsnight - Christian minority under pressure in Egypt
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:26 AM   #2
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yeah this has been going on for a while... never normally gets reported on the news, aside from a few rare articles here and there...
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I can't believe that such things happen in the 21st century.
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We are still living with the bronze age.
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That's incredibly disturbing. Those poor families of the missing women . And the women themselves.... My heart goes out to all of them. Thanks for bringing a bit of attention to this issue, you're absolutely right, it should be getting some more coverage.

Why is this kind of hell still happening in this day and age?

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when are people going to learn

religion is not worth the bother
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Agreed, Deep.
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Christians in Egypt shouldn't have the right to practice their religion?

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It's amazing how every atrocity committed in Iran is highlighted and perhaps should be denounced, and yet America's allies are carrying out similarly, if not worse, human rights crimes that go completely ignored by the mainstream US news media.
The atrocities pointed out in the video are a result of the society there. Although the government somewhat turns a blind eye to it, I don't know if there's a whole lot they can do about it...
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Social dominance through abduction and forced assimilation of a weaker group's women is the kind of practice which usually long predates whichever lines it's presently happening along. It doesn't help that Egypt's government is authoritarian, repressive and deeply corrupt, so unsurprisingly its legitimacy is weak and officials must pick and choose their enforcement battles carefully, with an eye to keeping the current biggest troublemakers in line through alternating applications of carrots and sticks, even if the carrots come at some weaker group's expense.

People will probably stop 'bothering' with religious and ethnoreligious identity en masse around the same time they stop 'bothering' with national identity en masse. Once the precedent is set of a collective right to geopolitical sovereignty on those grounds, it's all but inevitable that ongoing tensions with resident minorities, neighboring longstanding rivals, immigrants, and various emerging sectarian identities (often partially generated by the above) will follow. It's impossible to draw clear-cut universal distinctions between all these overlapping forms of identity and say, This type obviously has justifiable political import whereas this type obviously doesn't.
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BBC News - Christian minority under pressure in Egypt
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That's incredibly disturbing. Those poor families of the missing women . And the women themselves.... My heart goes out to all of them. Thanks for bringing a bit of attention to this issue, you're absolutely right, it should be getting some more coverage.

Why is this kind of hell still happening in this day and age?

Angela

I agree. My heart goes out to the family in the news story. I pray that somehow they get their daughter back. She was kidnapped, forced into a loveless marriage and her govenment is doing nothing about it. No religion should be forced on anyone and it seems to me that Jews, Christians, and Budhist are not doing this. It has to the individual choice. Judaism takes years of study to ensure that this is the path that one wants to follow. It is not convert or else, same for the Christians and Budhist.

Jews and Christians lived in Eygpt long before the Muslims did.
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Christians in Egypt shouldn't have the right to practice their religion?



The atrocities pointed out in the video are a result of the society there. Although the government somewhat turns a blind eye to it, I don't know if there's a whole lot they can do about it...


They should, along with the Jewish people. Every now and then, articles are in the Catholic Review Newspaper about Catholics being attacked by stone throwing as they are leaving church services by Muslims in Middle Eastern Countries. Israel is the only country in that region who protects their Christian citizens.
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Israel is the only country in that region who protects their Christian citizens.
Not quite.

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There are fewer than 50,000 Palestinian Christians left in the Palestinian territories -- a fraction of what it used to be with many more are planning their escape.
Quoting pressures from both sides, one Christian in the West Bank village of Beit Jala, near Christ's birthplace of Bethlehem, has lost all of his land to Israel's security wall and is applying for a visa to live in Australia.
Gaza's Christians lament the fact they cannot visit the holy cities of Jerusalem or Bethlehem.
January on Inside Middle East - CNN.com
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Thank you Pearl for the info and link.
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