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Old 07-26-2012, 06:00 PM   #76
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I agree with a rigorous background check and a mandatory mental
health assessment and a training course. It should be a process that
takes several weeks or more.
I like this reasonable approach.

Now if we could only get you to admit that certain guns are not needed for civilian ownership.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:48 PM   #77
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I don't think he explicitly approved RPGs.
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:39 AM   #78
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Venezuela recently passed a law prohibiting the ownership and commercial sale of guns to civilians due to constant pervasive armed crime.

Venezuela bans civilians from private gun ownership � Hot Air

I guess if the United States were in a similar position with increased crime rates, a law like this would be looked as a solution and not as the typical thing that the government interferes with the rights of the people.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:59 AM   #79
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I don't think he explicitly approved RPGs.
They're all just tools.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:17 AM   #80
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:12 AM   #81
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Venezuela recently passed a law prohibiting the ownership and commercial sale of guns to civilians due to constant pervasive armed crime.

Venezuela bans civilians from private gun ownership � Hot Air

I guess if the United States were in a similar position with increased crime rates, a law like this would be looked as a solution and not as the typical thing that the government interferes with the rights of the people.
To be honest, Venezuela is one place where I would truly be concerned about this interfering with the rights of the people. I can't help but think that this may have something to do with Chavez cracking down to help reduce any future revolutionary thought.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:37 AM   #82
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A lot of people, especially the victims' families, insist that the shooter should be given zero media attention.

However, shouldn't there be some focus on Holmes in order to make an attempt to study and understand what's going on in these killers' minds?

This way, we may be able to detect red flags and become more proactive to intervene before someone else does something stupid.

I know I'm really reaching here. But I find it disturbing how "mental health issues" are often placed on the back burner in tragedies like this.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:53 AM   #83
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I know I'm really reaching here. But I find it disturbing how "mental health issues" are often placed on the back burner in tragedies like this.
I don't think that's reaching at all. But the problem is, there's not enough evidence in this particular case to use this as an example of a situation that could have been prevented if mental health were taken more serious.
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Venezuela recently passed a law prohibiting the ownership and commercial sale of guns to civilians due to constant pervasive armed crime.

Venezuela bans civilians from private gun ownership � Hot Air

I guess if the United States were in a similar position with increased crime rates, a law like this would be looked as a solution and not as the typical thing that the government interferes with the rights of the people.
If such a law were passed in the US, it would be struck down. Any real change in gun ownership policy would require a constitutional amendment.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:32 PM   #85
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Well that, and hell freezing over...
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:44 PM   #86
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Well that, and hell freezing over...
Yeah, that would come first.
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However, shouldn't there be some focus on Holmes in order to make an attempt to study and understand what's going on in these killers' minds?
Yes, absolutely. But that focus and study should absolutely NOT happen in the media.
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The kid was never in trouble in his life aside from a speeding ticket. What are they going to do? Require mandatory screenings every year for every person in the country?
No, how about just mandatory screenings every year for those that choose to own a firearm.
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Yes, absolutely. But that focus and study should absolutely NOT happen in the media.
Indeed. Its amazing to see "reporters" and op-ed writers analyze someone they've never met before and likely never will.

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No, how about just mandatory screenings every year for those that choose to own a firearm.
This I'm all for.
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Well that, and hell freezing over...
As badly as I want serious gun regulations, I sure as shit don't want the type of catastrophe that would provoke a Constitutional amendment.

There's still an ounce of patriotism in me, but our own constitution has fucked us pretty hard here. It's going to take decades of small steps or one huge, scary big step to undo our cultural perspective on gun ownership. Thankfully, it seems as if many people are OK with those smaller steps, such as yearly testing.

Preaching gun rights is absurd when we don't even have the "right" to something that is often a societal requirement, like driving a vehicle.
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