bigjohn2441
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"he's more machine now, than man. twisted, and evil."
does a picture of cheney exist where he doesnt look like something from a child's nightmare?
Drill, baby, drill!!
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does a picture of cheney exist where he doesnt look like something from a child's nightmare?
Irvine511
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well, Obama just bitch-slapped a minimum of $20bn out of BP, and some Republicans are furious that a multinational corporation was treated so rudely. and Haley Barbour doesn't want it. and Limbaugh thinks the money will go to ACORN. 
so the GOP is flummoxed.
so ... the president just got something (rather big) done. are we happier now?
so the GOP is flummoxed.so ... the president just got something (rather big) done. are we happier now?
Moonlit_Angel
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Wow, the GOP is whining and moaning about Obama's actions regarding a business again (hey, he did something, didn't he, like you wanted a few days ago? And don't they deserve to be "treated rudely" for what they've put people through?). Note the complete lack of shock on my face: 
(money would go to ACORN? How the hell does he figure that?).
I'm impressed that Obama's managed to get that sort of a deal from BP. That's a very promising sign, and I applaud him for that. Now hopefully we can move on to figuring out how to clean up, or at least manage, the oil spill and change the way business and oil activities are handled.
I'm thinking the answer to that is no. I was just going to say, "I want my Mommy!" *Curls up in ball and hides*
Angela
(money would go to ACORN? How the hell does he figure that?).I'm impressed that Obama's managed to get that sort of a deal from BP. That's a very promising sign, and I applaud him for that. Now hopefully we can move on to figuring out how to clean up, or at least manage, the oil spill and change the way business and oil activities are handled.
I'm thinking the answer to that is no. I was just going to say, "I want my Mommy!" *Curls up in ball and hides*
Angela
Irvine511
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deep
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a citizen or corporation, and keep in mind 'corporations' have person status
persons enjoy rights, two 'gay' corporations can merge!
persons enjoy rights, two 'gay' corporations can merge!
maycocksean
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Bluer White
New Yorker
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
when you're dealing with boats swimming with, and in, oil, doesn't this seem like an entirely reasonable thing to have on board? or do we want yet another explosion?
what do you want? government regulation or not?
A_Wanderer
ONE love, blood, life
Why doesn't the governor try to exorcise the oil from the sea?
joe barton is so out of line there. utterly ridiculous, but not at all surprising.
kramwest1
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I thought I read somewhere that it will take $5 billion to begin setting up a hydrogen infrastructure in the US for car filling stations.
So...can we give BP a double F-U by taking it from them and starting to reduce our oil use?
Good for Obama and the Gulf Coast about the $20 billion. But, I'll be happier when I hear more residents saying that they got a check and are spending it locally to help the economy.
So...can we give BP a double F-U by taking it from them and starting to reduce our oil use?
Good for Obama and the Gulf Coast about the $20 billion. But, I'll be happier when I hear more residents saying that they got a check and are spending it locally to help the economy.
kramwest1
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I am more than happy to make fun of Jindal, but he has been handling this crisis quite well IMO.
agreed on all counts.
Popmartijn
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Moonlit_Angel
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Also not at all surprising. Awwww, did we hurt poor BP's feelings and make them feel bad, Barton, is that the problem?
Please. Next time, buddy, try thinking about what you say before you open your mouth. Jon Stewart had a bit of fun with that last night.
And speaking of similar shows, this bit floored me. Thoughts on this story, anyone?:
Obama's Simplified BP Oil Spill Speech | June 17, 2010 - David Mamet | ColbertNation.com
If that were true, I think that would explain a whole lot of the issues surrounding this problem.
Angela
Please. Next time, buddy, try thinking about what you say before you open your mouth. Jon Stewart had a bit of fun with that last night.
And speaking of similar shows, this bit floored me. Thoughts on this story, anyone?:
Obama's Simplified BP Oil Spill Speech | June 17, 2010 - David Mamet | ColbertNation.com
If that were true, I think that would explain a whole lot of the issues surrounding this problem.
Angela
dazzledbylight
Blue Crack Supplier
aren't you contradicting yourself?
I mean OMG... if the explosion could cause more fissures in the oil cavern ceiling? would the deep water pressures hold down these cracks? What if a bigger gap happened and more oil poured out quicker in a wider area?
and we're also dealing with incredible pressures down there.
What effect would that have on the interaction between explosion, water pressure and the now upward pressure of the escaping oil?
Seems way too risky to me. I'd have to hear a hell of a lot of top NON-OIL Industry Scientists of geophysical/nuclear/oceanography etc kinds talk about this.
dazzledbylight
Blue Crack Supplier
This at least sounds somewhat more sensible.
But again gotta bring in Non Oil-Industry Geophysicists , Oceanographers/ Explosive Experts etc to talk together.
Bluer White
New Yorker
I know, I know. You're either with us, or you're against us. You're either for govt regulation, or zero regulation. Black and white.
We're fans of nuance around here, right?
YouTube - Jindal
Gov. Jindal is an executive. He seems to get it.
dazzledbylight
Blue Crack Supplier
YB I am so sorry your area is going through such havoc (the fast and the slower kind) again! 
I haven't seen enough of your posts to have made a decision on where your are along the political spectrum.... but you did say some sensible things about Bush & Co.
As for President Obabma.... I agree with MLA that the has picked certain people he should get rid of of.
And even a very smart person like him, doesn't have expertise across the board (usually) --though his smartness would tend toward him absorbing new material easier.
He had/s so much to fix (my POV), then having something like this happen on top of everything else; especially when the secondary oil ?pipe(or well), and an acoustic back- up switch emergency switch to close off the pipe while demanded in other countries to prevent what happened from happening...
.... were just sloughed off by Bush/Chenney.
SO BP could get away with not installing either, or both here in the Gulf!
I don't if it's been mentioned but BP was the company that was supposed to clean up in thw Exxon Valdize disaster. Exxon was angry at how lousy a job BP did .
I haven't seen enough of your posts to have made a decision on where your are along the political spectrum.... but you did say some sensible things about Bush & Co.
As for President Obabma.... I agree with MLA that the has picked certain people he should get rid of of.
And even a very smart person like him, doesn't have expertise across the board (usually) --though his smartness would tend toward him absorbing new material easier.
He had/s so much to fix (my POV), then having something like this happen on top of everything else; especially when the secondary oil ?pipe(or well), and an acoustic back- up switch emergency switch to close off the pipe while demanded in other countries to prevent what happened from happening...
.... were just sloughed off by Bush/Chenney.
SO BP could get away with not installing either, or both here in the Gulf!
I don't if it's been mentioned but BP was the company that was supposed to clean up in thw Exxon Valdize disaster. Exxon was angry at how lousy a job BP did .
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
nuance This is exactly how conservatives have been framing the situation for years, please don't pretend otherwise.
Actually, he doesn't get it and he's lying through his teeth to make a political point.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
Any Hannity fans out there? I don't get him. Maybe someone can help me out, today he talked about how the Federal Government shouldn't be intervening... as if the free market is going to clean this shit up But then goes on later to say Obama failed.
So which way is it? Why can't these guys speak without contradiction or hypocricy?
But then goes on later to say Obama failed.So which way is it? Why can't these guys speak without contradiction or hypocricy?
Any Hannity fans out there? I don't get him. Maybe someone can help me out, today he talked about how the Federal Government shouldn't be intervening... as if the free market is going to clean this shit up
So which way is it? Why can't these guys speak without contradiction or hypocricy?
Because their purpose is pure propaganda. Their purpose is to simply control the message, from beginning to end, and to distort the truth (past the point that any reasonable person could keep a straight face), so that they make up peoples' minds for them before those people can form any opinion of their own. Their audience wants to hate. They just give them some BS dressed up as facts that allow them to hate.
My favorite contradiction of Hannity's is utterly laughable and is played out daily (on alternating days). It goes like this...
Day 1: Spew out that Obama is the most inconsequential and ineffective president in the history of the USA. Assert that he has done absolutely nothing, has not passed any meaningful laws, has not brought about any meaningful initiatives, etc. (never mind that his opponents plan has been, from the day of his inauguration, to fight anything he proposes, no matter if it's good for the nation or not). Allow a few poorly spoken, and easily out-argued Obama supporters to call into the show. When they do, don't allow them to speak or ask any questions -- only repeatedly interrogate them over and over, while interrupting them, "Name one thing he's done! Name one thing he's done!" Drive home that Obama is a lazy elite who just wants to party with the Hollywood set.
Day 2: Panic! Sound the alarm! Grab your weapons and form a militia! The Constitution, and everything our founding fathers fought for and built, is under greater imminent threat than it has been in over 200 years (more than a threat than the Civil War, the Nazis, the Soviet Union, and Al Quada combined)! Obama has a plan, and he has been executing it with daily precision. The plan is to dismantle the liberties of Americans and set up a socialist dictatorship! Can't you see everything he has already done?! He is already half-way there while we've been sleeping! (Have teary housewives call in and weep that, "I just don't know what is happening to our country! Is it already too late?")
Repeat Day 1 and Day 2 every day in alternating fashion. Pay no mind to the galactically stupid contradiction of the two.
Bluer White
New Yorker
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
But please, continue to apologize to BP, for as soon as they became aware of the cracks they stopped and... oh wait, no they didn't stop. Well at least they took responsibility at first... oh wait, no that didn't happen either.
Well oil is organic and accidents happen so let's continue to apologize to BP.
Well oil is organic and accidents happen so let's continue to apologize to BP.
Moser
Refugee
Sigh, I concur. Sometimes I go on rant mode and get out of line. I'm more frustrated on the lack of information available, but what can be expected when they can't even nail down the figures on how much oil is leaking?
Any radioactive materials will be buried far beneath the ocean floor. Plus, they are low radiation nuclear devices.
aren't you contradicting yourself?
I mean OMG... if the explosion could cause more fissures in the oil cavern ceiling? would the deep water pressures hold down these cracks? What if a bigger gap happened and more oil poured out quicker in a wider area?
and we're also dealing with incredible pressures down there.
What effect would that have on the interaction between explosion, water pressure and the now upward pressure of the escaping oil?
I apologize. Sounded like I'm contradicting myself. Sometimes when I type without thinking, the words don't come together as I would hope. I meant to say, if the risk was clear that an explosion would fracture the oil cavern's ceiling, then NO...let's not go that route. But I wonder if anybody has real information on this option, so we can know what risks are out there.
deep
Blue Crack Addict
I am really getting tire of the Drudge and other headlines
this thing is going to last months,
and aside from the first few days,
what emergency response requires the head people to be in lock down in a situation/ command room?
yes, they need to stay on top of it, and let the public know that everything than can be done, is being done
are they supposed to leave the office and go to a church and pray all night
and then log on to dawn.com and buy some dish soap and go chase down an otter and give it a bath?
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
the VRWC is alive and kicking
maycocksean
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Florida fishermen find dead Humpback Whale, first dead whale since disaster started.
Although Authorities are not speculating on cause of death, talk at the Marina yesterday was oil was found coming out of whales mouth. I have a very bad feeling this will become commonplace in the coming weeks. This is truly hard to get my head around all of this.
In the meantime, we really should apologize to BP, I mean the sorry SOB's have been trying the absolute damnest to try and spin this as no big deal and failing. With all of the campaign funds going to true-blue Americans like Mr. Barton they really shouldn't be held accountable for any of this, poor bastards.
Although Authorities are not speculating on cause of death, talk at the Marina yesterday was oil was found coming out of whales mouth. I have a very bad feeling this will become commonplace in the coming weeks. This is truly hard to get my head around all of this.
In the meantime, we really should apologize to BP, I mean the sorry SOB's have been trying the absolute damnest to try and spin this as no big deal and failing. With all of the campaign funds going to true-blue Americans like Mr. Barton they really shouldn't be held accountable for any of this, poor bastards.
